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Draft Strategy: Punting Starting Pitchers

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About a month ago, I wrote an article telling you that you should not wait to draft ace starting pitchers in your drafts this season. I also analyzed an NL-Only league mock draft that I participated in over at Mock Draft Central and advised you that ace starting pitchers are the new power hitters in 2012, as 8 starting pitchers were drafted amongst the first 25 picks.

Today, I am here to let you know you can win your league by punting starting pitchers. Yep. It's true, you can win your league with this strategy. I have used it to win two NL-Only 5 x 5 leagues over the years. Actually, every year I used this strategy, I placed in the top 3 in the league and was in the money. Now both leagues have rules that require a minimum innings requirement. If your league has no such rule, you should ponder using this strategy. It works, but it is certainly not easy.

What you need to know to win with this strategy after the jump:

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Like I said, punting starting pitchers, which involved punting two pitching categories-strikeouts and win-is not an easy strategy, but if done right, you can win. The idea behind the strategy is to draft hitters early in the draft, draft a few solid closers early and fill in the rest of your pitching spots with set up men and relievers with an excellent ERA and WHIP. To win the league you have to win or finish very high in the hitting categories, and win the saves, ERA and WHIP categories.

Here is how you execute this strategy:

1. Draft Closers Early-draft two stud closers early, like in the 6th-8th rounds, because you need closers who will not lose their job and who will put up 35-40 saves with a solid ERA and WHIP. Draft two of Craig Kimbrel, John Axford, Mariano Rivera, Jonathan Papelbon or Drew Storen.

2. Draft a Third Closer- draft your third closer in round 15-17, and then fill the rest of your pitching slots with the set up guys for closers who are on thin ice on Opening day. Draft Javy Guerra or Rafael Betancourt.

3. Draft Future Closers - to fill out your pitching slots, draft guys like Jonny Venters, Mike Adams and Kenley Jansen, as they all could save anywhere from 5-15 games in 2012. Actually, I think Jansen has a chance to be the Dodgers closer at some point in 2012. It all depends if Guerra can repeat his excellent rookie season.

4. Draft 4-5 Category Hitters - Draft hitters who will help you in 4 or 5 categories early. I don't have to tell you who these hitters are, but guys like Matt Kemp, Ryan Braun (well, not this year if he gets suspended), Miguel Cabrera, etc in the first round, then follow that up with the best hitter available in the second round such as Carlos Gonzalez, Dustin Pedroia, or Andrew McCutchen.

5. Draft Batting Average - one thing you don't want to do is draft a hitter like Jayson Werth over a hitter who will hit for a better average than Werth, but may not steal 15 bases in 2012. Werth has an ADP of 99.85 right now, but Howie Kendrick is available a few spots lower, and will hit for a better BA and provide 80% of the power and speed that Werth provides. And if you have to choose between a mid-range power hitter or a solid BA guy in the middle rounds, choose the solid BA guy. Why? Because it is easier to make up ground in home runs than it is in batting average.

6. Draft Speed - if you don't draft a 4-5 category hitter with good stolen base totals in the early rounds, you have to draft a top 5 stolen base guy such as Michael Bourn, Brett Gardner or even Dee Gordon in the 7th-12th rounds. You need to win the stolen base category or place in the top 3, at least. Speed guys also score runs, so don't miss out on a few of the top 10 base stealers.

7. Work the Waiver Wire - If one of your later round hitters isn't getting the playing time you projected on draft day, don't wait to drop him and grab someone who is playing everyday.

8. Draft At Bats - to win the counting categories like runs, home runs, RBI and stolen bases, you need guys that play, EVERYDAY. This is easier to do in mixed leagues, than in AL-Only or NL-Only leagues.

So, to win your league with this strategy, I am assuming your league does not have a minimum innings requirement. If it does, you need to draft a few starters who will not kill your ERA and WHIP. You don't care about strikeouts or wins, just ERA and WHIP. You need to win saves, ERA and WHIP.

You also need to place in the top 2-3 in each of the 5 hitting categories. So, when other owners are drafting ace starting pitchers in the 3rd-5th rounds, you will be scooping up the best hitters availalble. You need to draft your first 10 hitters before you draft your third closer. You can also try drafting your first 10-11 hitters before your second closer, but then you really need to work the waiver wire for that next closer, if he isn't already on your team, or draft your second and third closers back to back in rounds 13 and 14. Knowing the draft day tendencies of your fellow owners will help you decide when you should draft your second and third closers.

Like I said a few times, this strategy isn't easy, and isn't for everyone. Why? Because you are punting not one, but two categories, with this strategy. But it does work.

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I won’t be using this because my AL-O has an 1100 IP minimum. However it’s a sound strategy and one that’ll definitely land you in the money especially if the other owners don’t catch on during the draft and play some defense.

by YouDownWithFIP on Feb 7, 2012 7:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

yea

then you would have to draft a few 200 inning starters to make it work.

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 7, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ray, even before reading this I was planningon using this strategy. In my 5 × 5 NL-only dynasty league I had great hitting and terrible pitching. My keeper hitters are Kemp, CarGo, Hanley, Victorino, Miguel Montero. I had the likes of Mike Minor and Corey Luebke as my starting pitchers. I traded Espinosa and Duda for Kimbrel; Ethier for Axford; Minor for Hanrahan.
One question: We use an AL hitter as a DH in this league. Position doesn’t matter. I have Adrian Gonzalez. Would you keep him or try to grab a 5 category guy (Granderson and Ellsbury are gone) like Kinsler or Pedroia?
After reading this piece, I’m excited about trying the new strategy.

by Scott Warden on Feb 7, 2012 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

keep AGonz

and try to grab a SB guy like Coco Crisp.

Ray Guilfoyle
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 7, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I used this strategy last year in a AL only, 5X5 league, with only 1 starter (justin masterson) and 4 closers and filled out my staff with solid set up men. I placed 2nd, my hitting was killer, I finished 1.5 points out of first. I plan on using this strategy this year again, however it will be a rebuilding year as my keepers are horrible because I spent so much on my hitters, that I don’t have jack for keepers.

by highvoltagerob on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Good strategy, but....

I like this idea and am familiar with it. However, last year in my AL Only 10 team 5×5, the champion scored 84 points. If I punt Ks and Ws, and win all the hitting categories and ERA/WHIP/Saves…I’d finish in second. Which is certainly in the money, but winning all hitting categories and 3 of the 5 pitching is no certain thing.

That said, our format is UltraRoto auction. We keep up to 15 major leaguers, and our reserve team holds up to 17 minor leaguers. I own Pinieda, Morrow, and Matt Moore at really low salaries. I could spin off them for offense and a closer and solid set up guys. Thoughts?

by jjelak on Feb 7, 2012 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

well

in an auction, having really cheap starters is a big advantage, because the aces go anywhere from $25-30+ depending on the pitcher, so I might say keep them. Since they are so cheap, you have more money to spend on hitting, or that established ace pitcher.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Understood...

Ray,
Agree that my young/cheap starters are valuable. But, I am intrigued by going for it this year since my league doesn’t have an IP minimum. I will have around $180 of my $260 budget to pick 10 players. I have Pineda at $1, Morrow at $12, and Moore at $5 (who is on my reserve, not counting against my keepers). I also have Thornton at $2, Sale and Nathan at $1 and Addison Reed on my reserve. Long way of saying that if there was ever a year for me to punt Ks and Ws, this is the year. I could trade Morrow/Pineda/Moore for a return of top flight offense with a good, cheap set up guy or two, then draft big offense and one more closer. Take me off the ledge…

by jjelak on Feb 7, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Ray, could you talk a little bit about a couple of things? First, what happens if one or two of your pitchers have really awful seasons? Would it be enought to cost you the ERA and WHIP titles? Also, I’m guessing with this strategy that you’ve got to have a ton of patience early in the season, because it will probably take awhile to bounce back from a couple of really bad outings. Thanks.

by Scott Warden on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

good point

take a look at how Kenley Jansen started the 2011 season…..month by month and then look at how he ended the season and his overall stats. Relievers can rebound fairly quickly.
You definitely need to have some patience with releivers.

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 7, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

LIMA

says to draft starting pitchers

Ray Guilfoyle
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www.minorleagueball.com
www.mlbdailydish.com

by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 7, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

LIMA was built for 4×4 Roto too

by YouDownWithFIP on Feb 7, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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