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2012 Tiered Positional Fantasy Rankings: First Base

Spring training approaches, meaning draft season is on the way as well. Now's as good of a time as any to unveil the latest in Fake Teams' series of draft rankings, our tiered model. This is a format I have used for a few seasons now, and have continued to tweak and refine, in the hopes of giving you even more accuracy every spring.

There are five different tiers. Five-star players are the best, and one-star players are your more fungible fantasy assets. For the sake of easy understanding, star rankings generally come down to their auction values and the number of categories they should contribute to. A five-star player is expected to be worth at least $30 of production and contribute in all five categories, a four-star player worth at least $20 and good for four categories, three-star players are $10 and up (and, you guessed it, three categories), two-star are your single-digit buys that you hope to get value out of, and one-star are the kind of guys you throw $1 at and hope to get something out of. But if not, hey, it was just $1.

Organizing players like this allows you to differentiate between the remaining assets at your draft, and make the proper decisions in terms of timing. If the last four-star first baseman just went off the board, and you need a first baseman, but all of a sudden you see there are 10 very similar three-star first basemen still on the board... what's the rush? Try to find a four-star player at another position instead, as these rankings, constructed out of projected dollar values and categories, work across position. That's why you would have seen Buster Posey as both a three-star catcher and three-star first baseman in the 2011 rankings, even if he has more value as a catcher: he's a three-star player, as position was already taken into account in the creation of the star rating.

This also allows you to throw all of the positions together into one huge list, ranked by tier, and be able to see a loosely-organized but complete list of every player's fantasy value on draft day. And, since Fake Teams already has rankings that come at you from different angles than this, my hope is to just give you one more tool and viewpoint with which you can work on succeeding with this year.

Star-divide

Five Star

PLAYER POS TEAM
Pujols, Albert 1B ANA
Cabrera, Miguel 1B DET
Gonzalez, Adrian 1B BOS
Votto, Joey 1B CIN

Pujols remains the king at first base, even after his "worst" season in his career in 2011. Moving from pitcher-friendly Busch to the more neutral Los Angeles of Anaheim should help his numbers out, even with the switch to the more difficult league. Miguel Cabrera, if he actually is going to stick at third base (or at least earn eligibility there) might actually be the most valuable player from a fantasy perspective in 2012.

Adrian Gonzalez was the most-valuable first baseman last year, and another year removed from shoulder surgery should mean he'll be as good or better in 2012. Joey Votto was slightly disappointing in 2011, but not enough for me to want to remove him from the five-star tier. If he bumps his homers back up to 2010 levels, he's an easy five, but even if he doesn't, he barely missed this tier last season anyway.

Four Star

PLAYER POS TEAM
Fielder, Prince 1B DET
Teixeira, Mark 1B NYA
Napoli, Mike C,1B TEX
Santana, Carlos C,1B CLE

Fielder's excellent 2011 season but him just under five-star value, and with a tougher hitter's park and in the tougher league, I have a hard time thinking he'll top that campaign. Four stars it is, even if you ignore that he hasn't put together two dominating seasons in a row, ever. Taking that into consideration makes this four-star status even easier.

Carlos Santana gets a huge boost to his value by virtue of lining up behind the plate, but he is first base eligible, and racks up plenty of plate appearances because of it. He's borderline, as a four-star candidate, but I think he'll just make it in terms of value.

Three Star

PLAYER POS TEAM
Morse, Michael 1B,LF WAS
Konerko, Paul 1B,DH CHA
Young, Michael 1B,3B,DH TEX
Berkman, Lance 1B,RF SLN
Reynolds, Mark 1B,3B BAL
Hosmer, Eric 1B KCA
Freeman, Freddie 1B ATL
Cuddyer, Michael 1B,RF COL

Morse and Konerko both have the sticks to sneak into the four-star tier, but I'm much more comfortable targeting them for the $15-18 range instead. Michael Young's value lies in his playing time, but neither his bat nor his at-bats were a hindrance in 2011. Lance Berkman might not replicate his 2011 exactly, but, except for the injury-plagued 2010 season, he's always good for this level of production. Mark Reynolds is someone I wouldn't want on my real team, but if the Orioles want to play him every day, by all means, enjoy the $12-15 he produces.

Eric Hosmer didn't do a whole lot last year, but with a full season to play and a partial 2011 under his belt, he's a good bet to squeeze out at least $10, along the same lines as Freddie Freeman in 2011, even. Cuddyer bounces around in terms of his production, but he now has Coors to buoy his bat, rounding out a strong bottom to the three-star tier.

Two Star

PLAYER POS TEAM
Dunn, Adam 1B,DH CHA
Morneau, Justin 1B MIN
Pena, Carlos 1B TBA
Duda, Lucas 1B,RF NYN
Lee, Carlos 1B,LF HOU
Loney, James 1B LAN
Lind, Adam 1B TOR
Davis, Ike 1B NYN
Howard, Ryan 1B PHI
Goldschmidt, Paul 1B ARI
Carp, Mike 1B,LF SEA
Smoak, Justin 1B SEA
Davis, Chris 1B,3B BAL
Murphy, Daniel 1B,2B,3B NYN

Dunn's 2011 was horrific, but it just feels unlikely he'll be valued any lower than in the $5 range at draft day. That's probably a smart buy, as long as you draft some insurance, too. The same can be said for Justin Morneau: there is huge potential here if his concussions finally stop bothering him, but if they don't, you don't want to be caught paying top dollar for him again, either. Carlos Pena moves back to Tampa Bay, and he didn't quite make the three-star tier when in a hitter-friendly park for lefties. I see no reason to give him a bump after leaving.

Lucas Duda has a powerful bat, and the fences at Citi Field are moving in. I expect we'll see Ike Davis outperform a lot of projections because of this, too, making both of these guys possible three-star players -- until we see how the fence plays, there's no reason to guarantee more from them than two-star production.

Carlos Lee is a shadow of old, but he's certainly capable of being a two-star first baseman. Ryan Howard might actually be much better than this ranking suggests, but given we don't know how long he will be out -- or if his Achilles will continue to bother him when he does return -- and I'm therefore not about to depend on him. Mike Carp and Justin Smoak should provide offense out of Seattle; were they not stuck there, I'd consider both of them for higher ranks. Reality keeps them from getting that.

One Star

PLAYER POS TEAM
Sanchez, Gaby 1B FLO
Encarnacion, Edwin 1B,3B,DH TOR
LaRoche, Adam 1B WAS
Moreland, Mitch 1B,RF TEX
Allen, Brandon 1B OAK
Jones, Garrett 1B,RF PIT
Helton, Todd 1B COL
Huff, Aubrey 1B,OF SFN
Kotchman, Casey 1B CLE
Belt, Brandon 1B,LF SFN
Wigginton, Ty 1B,3B,LF PHI
Hughes, Luke 1B,2B MIN
Trumbo, Mark 1B ANA
Carter, Chris 1B OAK
Rivera, Juan 1B,LF LAN
Rizzo, Anthony 1B CHN
Barton, Daric 1B OAK
Guzman, Jesus 1B SDN
Overbay, Lyle 1B ARI
Kennedy, Adam 1B,2B,3B LAN

I like some of these players more than others -- Gaby Sanchez could sneak into the two-star level, Todd Helton might have another useful Coors-aided season in his veteran bag of tricks, Brandon Belt might actually get to play in San Francisco at some point, Mark Trumbo at third might not end up requiring a disaster task force to clean up. Generally, though, after you get past those names, these are the kinds of players you're going to want to throw $1 at in AL- or NL-only leagues, not your mixed formats.

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"Eric Hosmer didn't do a whole lot last year"

Argh, why does this phrase continue to pop up?

From May 5th, 2011 (when Hosmer debuted) to the end of the year, he was the 44th most valuable 5×5 player. Only AGonz, Miggy, Pujols, Votto, Young and Fielder were more valuable for 1B from that time point to the end of the season.

He was 21 years old. Sure, you could expect some growing pains in 2012, but consider that Hosmer slumped (badly) in June, yet was able to rebound and post 24th most valuable (better than Votto, Fielder or AGonz) line from July 1st to the end of the year. The guy can adjust, and his BB% should increase based on his career minor league numbers (well over 9%).

He certainly shouldn’t be behind Mark freakin’ Reynolds.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

where are you getting your values from?

ESPN?

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 13, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

BaseballMonster

so, standard Z-scores I believe

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say he was bad

I said he didn’t do a whole lot. Slugging .465 was fine, especially for his age, and I’m sure he’ll be better in the future. But he didn’t have a ton of plate appearances since he didn’t start the year with the team, so in terms of what he produced for fantasy, he was behind. It wasn’t a criticism of his abilities, simply stating fact regarding his 2011 value.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He was the 44th most valuable player from the time he stepped onto the diamond last year

What is your definition of doing a whole lot, then?

Of course we have to look into the past to predict the future, but holding his late start in 2011 against his 2012 value seems like a poor decision.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not holding his 2011 late start against him

Were I, he would be lower than in the middle. There’s nothing wrong with expecting him to be worth $15-18 or so in standard mixed formats. That’s pretty good value, especially for a 22-year-old.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

And...

“shouldn’t be behind Mark freakin’ Reynolds”

He’s not really behind him. That’s the point of a tier. You can expect basically the same level of production from everyone within that tier.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, maybe there should be half tiers then?

I like the article (rec’d it), but it just seems like there’s more here that could be done.

This gets back to my point (below) about the Catchers being included in the same spot they would have for C, in the 1B rankings. Are we really expecting Santana or Napoli to put up similar numbers/value as Fielder?

It isn’t universal, or otherwise there wouldn’t be a positional scarcity debate…

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Secondly, I question the value of including multi-position guys

in the Tier that their most scarce position belongs to (sounded better in my head, hopefully that makes sense).

It would seem to either overestimate the value their position contributes or underestimate the scarcity of their position.

For example, Santana is a 5 Star catcher (my #1 C), yet I would think he would be no better than a 3 Star 1B (somewhere around Freeman/Cuddyer).

Thoughts?

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

As explained above, Santana is a four-star player

He’ll be listed at catcher as well. I’m not just putting him at first base because I feel like it. Everywhere players are eligible is where they will be listed.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, I must not have explained my point/question very well

I understand that plenty of players will have multiple positions, and maybe its just Catchers that will present special situations, but think of this way:

A 4 star SS will not provide 4 star 1B value. The expected production is relative to the rest of the positional “field”.

Putting a guy like Santana at 1B decimates his value.

I understand what you are doing, I am just disagreeing with the usefulness it provides.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

"Putting a guy like Santana at 1B decimates his value."

which is why he is a 4 star first baseman and not a 5 star first baseman, no?

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

At least not when Fielder and Teixeira are there.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Positional scarcity and adjustments

Were worked into the rankings themselves. It’s why the very best catchers will be four-star guys, not five-star, as they tend to be less valuable than the best players at other positions.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I get what you're saying, though

That a great catcher at first is going to be lacking relative to a great first baseman. But there are a few catchers, because they play so much more often at other positions when they aren’t behind the plate, they don’t end up with the same quantity issues as other catchers. Victor Martinez, Napoli, etc.

by Marc Normandin on Feb 13, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Which...

makes them great Catchers, but average at 1B.

by Internet Bullies on Feb 13, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe I need to be more direct in what I am saying here.

Compare Fielder/Teix 2011 stats with Napoli/Santana/VMart (assuming he would have been a 4 star 1B too if healthy) 2011 stats.

They don’t belong in the same tier, and its not that close.

You either have to give a player different ratings for different positions, or don’t include them. That is my point.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Santana

these rankings are looking forward, not looking back. I can see Santana improving on his 2011 season and hitting 30+ HRs in 2012 with a better BA. I don’t have a problem with him in the 4 star tier.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 14, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

So by that logic you'd draft him at the same spot as Teix/Fielder in a 2012 redraft?

I can certainly see Santana having a better BA next year, but what are the odds he plays in 155 games with 650+ PAs? About 50/50 as the Indians have no real options at C or 1B beside him to hold him back, but that’s assuming perfect health.

But, that’s going to be the problem, even if we give Carlos and Teix the same BA and HR, Teix will have 60+ more R/RBI pretty much by default.

I’m not arguing that Santana isn’t an elite C, just that its ridiculous to have him in the same tier as Fielder or Teix, both of which are early 2nd rounders in 2012.

by xrayxtals on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Fielder

I think he belongs in the 5 star tier. Thoughts?

Marc is right about his on again, off again trend though.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 13, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

4 star tier sounds about right ...

I think the move to DET hurts Fielder more than it helps him.

Everyone talks about batting after Cabrera, but it’s not as if Braun was a slouch in front of him in Milwaukee. Meanwhile, R. Weeks and C. Hart were both better table setters than A. Jackson or R. Raburn (or whoever bats 2nd) are likely to be for Fielder.

Fielder is also notorious for slow starts, at least in terms of HR … and that’s with playing in the controlled climate of Miller Park in April/May not the roofless Comerica Park/Progressive Field/Target Field/etc. Furthermore, Fielder was always a better hit at Miller Park than on the road … at least in terms of HR. Maybe that translates to Comerica Park, but I’d bet against it to some extent. Then add the fact that he has a monstrous contract to live up to (which could cause him to press, especially considering the aforementioned slow starts) while facing unfamiliar pitching and is due for one of his “off” seasons and I’d say there are too many question marks to compare him to Pujols, Cabrera, A-Gon or Votto in the 5 star tier.

by Kevin Boger on Feb 13, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And ...

I think most are predicting increased HR totals from each of the 5 star tier 1B listed here, meaning the gap could increase between Fielder and that tier as the season progresses. At least, I haven’t heard of anyone predicting an increase in HR for Fielder in ‘12. I know his PECOTA rankings have him right around 38 again and I’d probably take the under on that. Not by a lot, but say mid 30s instead of high 30s.

by Kevin Boger on Feb 13, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT!?!?!?!?!

Santana and Napoli couldn’t hold Prince’s huge Jock strap if they tried to together! C’mon dude! They are Catchers. Probly both just had their best power season of their career. Have fun paying for that.

by Internet Bullies on Feb 13, 2012 5:03 PM EST reply actions  

And Hosmer

I really don’t take much away from rankings that fail to try and project the future. Why rank if you are just going to take last years numbers and list them? Hosmer is 22 years old playing in Major League Baseball. He is going to improve. Not if, he IS going to get better and better. I’ll take Hosmer and Konerko over any Catcher 7 days a week.

by Internet Bullies on Feb 13, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

Moral of all this discussion

Saying a prospect isn’t a superstar at age 22 must mean you hate him for racial reasons.

If you want to say dumb things, you can't get mad when I call you dumb.

by dudedudedude on Feb 13, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

I can't speak for the conversation after my comments

but I at least presented a cogent argument for a higher ranking for Hosmer…

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

And I can just as easily say the opposite

Hosmer should be ranked lower because he is so young which puts him at a higher risk of failing. His xBABIP was well below his BABIP last season and he plays in a stadium that kills left handed power. You don’t draft players based solely on their upsides, you draft on their floor as well. Can Hosmer be worth more? Sure, but that doesn’t mean he is worth that much since the probability of him getting there isn’t all that high.

If you want to say dumb things, you can't get mad when I call you dumb.

by dudedudedude on Feb 13, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

What's the predictive power of looking at a player's xBABIP from year to year?

I didn’t say he should be higher based on his upside.

He has a much higher probability of matching or improving on his 2011 numbers (pretty close to his floor for 2012), than he does of regressing. I outlined what kind of value his 2011 brought.

I doubt we are very far off in our evaluation of Hosmer’s 2012 value. This is where the 5 Tier system is very flawed. There are only 4 “changes” in value, not nearly enough. I suspect something like 8 tiers to provide a much more accurate representation of positional value.

by xrayxtals on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

There's tons

Batted ball profiles don’t vary all that much from year to year unless a player makes a major swing change or moves into a new park.

If you want to say dumb things, you can't get mad when I call you dumb.

by dudedudedude on Feb 13, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

After digging around a little bit

will be interesting to see how the xBABIP-predicted regressor perform in 2012. There’s a lot of big names on there, and some obvious ones on the improvement side (Longo, LoMo).

I’m not sure Hosmer has a large enough SS to say for sure what his batted ball profile should be.

Of course younger players provide the most risk, but so do older players. You don’t want to be the guy that buys in on either the Sophomore slump or the Fall-off year.

by xrayxtals on Feb 14, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Hosmer

do you really beleive he will have a sophomore slump? He won’t pull a Heyward on us…..

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Feb 14, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Do I? No, that should be apparent from my comments

If by “pull a Heyward”, you mean get injured? We have no way of knowing that, do we?

My last sentence was more of a general statement on the uncertainty that pretty much any player provides. There are no locks.

Sophomore slumps (just like the Verducci effect) are anecdotal at best.

by xrayxtals on Feb 14, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Rankings

Great work as usual Mark. Just wondering if you could draw a line in your 2nd 3rd and 4th tiers that delineates the 5 15 and 25 dollar approx value. I feel like this would be simple and helpful and break down the tiers somewhat without changing much. Thanks.

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