"Don't Wait on Starting Pitchers in 2012" Strategy Mock Draft Results
So I decided to try out Ray's idea of a mock draft where I drafted Hitter-Pitcher-Hitter-Pitcher for the first ten rounds, and this is the result. My team was surprisingly deep at hitting, even though I never spent consecutive picks on hitting until rounds 21 and 22. It was unfortunate that it was a 10 team draft, because it didn't properly display the depth one could have in a more common 12 or 14 team league, but it was the only draft available until I had class again. I had the eighth pick, so my picks were eighth, third, etc. It's a 23 round draft, with 2 C, 1 1B, 1 2B, 1 3B, 1 SS, 5 OF, 1 UTIL, 1 MI, 1 CI, and 10 P.
Team results and personal opinion after the jump:
C: Carlos Santana (R3, P8)
Chris Ianetta (R20, P3)
1B: Eric Hosmer (R7, P8)
2B: Robinson Cano (R1, P8)
3B: David Freese (R18, P3)
SS: Jimmy Rollins (R12, P3)
OF: Jay Bruce (R5, P8)
Drew Stubbs (R9, P8) [Disclaimer: My internet froze, which led to the computer giving me Stubbs over Ryan Braun in this slot.]
Corey Hart (R13, P8)
Mike Trout (R21, P8)
Jerry Sands (R22, P3)
UTIL: Nick Markakis (R14, P3)
CI: Emilio Bonifacio (R19, P8)
MI: Stephen Drew (R23, P8)
SP: Roy Halladay (R2, P3)
Zack Grienke (R4, P3)
Ian Kennedy (R6, P3)
Michael Pineda (R8, P3)
Gio Gonzalez (R10, P3)
RP: Kenley Jansen (R11, P8)
Joel Hanrahan (R15, P8)
Sergio Santos (R16, P3)
Chris Perez (R17, P8)
All in all, I think it's a very solid team, the hitting is stronger than expected, with above average power, average, and run production. The only place the line up lacks is in steals, because there's no one major speester, but there is definitely sufficient overall team speed to at least stay competitive in steals.
Pitching, on the other hand, is phenomenal. There are three pitchers that could, in any given year, be in the top five for NL Cy Young voting, in Halladay, Greinke, and Kennedy, while Pineda and Gonzalez will continue to improve with age and better run support, respectively. The relief pitchers are also very good, as Jansen, assuming he beats Javy Guerra out for the closer job in LA, should be good for 25 saves, an ERA of about 2.45, and a MASSIVE K/9, Hanrahan will be great even if he regresses a bit, Santos will continue to improve and is playing for a far better team so will get a lot more save opportunities, and Perez continues to be one of the most underrated players in baseball, in my opinion.
Overall, while I'd need to continue to test and refine this strategy, it's definitely viable and could work out very well for any owner that chooses to use it. I'd consider using the fourth round pick on a hitter, and then tacking a later round pick on a starter, but it's still a championship calibre team, both hitting and pitching.
Thanks for the idea Ray, it was fun to try something way different. Any comments are welcome and if anyone else has ideas of different mock strategies I can try, I'm open to it. (College tends to get slow during weeknights.)
T.C. Engel
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thanks
will take a longer look later
I’ve used punting starting pitchers as well….grabbing saves, whip and era…..some leagues have minimum innings rules though
but I have won two 5 × 5 money leagues using this strategy
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I've never played in a league that doesn't have minimum innings.
But if I ever do, I’d definitely do that. It’d be fairly easy to win, I’d think, just pick high quality set up men like Clippard and Venters in addition to closers.
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Yep
both leagues put in minimum innings rules because of it.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jan 9, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha I don't blame them, but nicely done.
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but
I was giving up two categories in a 5 × 5 league….not easy to win with that strategy. A lot has to go your way.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jan 9, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Wow!
When I first saw your formula I thought you were crazy but after seeing the results, all I can say is wow!
by Randy1375 on Jan 10, 2012 11:10 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Thank you sir!
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10 teamers
Tend to make every team look awesome. OF is a little weak, but that’s a growing trend in mock drafts that i have noticed.
Yeah, as I said, it was unfortunate that it was a 10.
But even for a 10, this team is very good.
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“Santos will continue to improve and is playing for a far better team so will get a lot more save opportunities”.
The Jays are far better than the White Sox? “Far” meaning what? Like 10 games in the standings? Id like some of that action.
The Sox will probably finish with a better record than the Jays, but I will take the +10 in a friendly wager.
Santos is due for regression in my opinion. Control issues are a big problem that most people don’t recognize. He can’t control his only out pitch (slider). Late in the year when hitters learned to lay off he ran into lots of trouble and actually lost his job. His fastball cannot get it done.
I’d pass on Santos for those interested.
The ChiSox are selling hard.
Their rotation is above average, to be generous, as it’s essentially the same, just add Sale and subtract Buerhle. They have no hitting, regardless of how much Beckham, Dunn, and Rios come back, the only guarantee in their line up is Konerko. The Jays are getting better, with a full season of Lawrie to look forward to.
Santos has a young arm, and is really just starting to get the hang of pitching in my opinion, but I probably only saw about five ChiSox games last year, so I could be wrong for sure. I like Santos though.
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by T.C. Engel on Jan 12, 2012 6:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I entered two
NL-only mock drafts this week and they did not fill up.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jan 12, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
i like it, but
to say that Ian Kennedy is top-5 in the NL in “any given year” is WAYYYYYYY optimisitic, isn’t it? But, for your #3, he’s pretty awesome.
by JoelGuzman'sScout on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 AM EST reply actions
I'm sure...
he’ll go 21-4 again in his career…NOT!
Picking near turn
I have to wonder how this works if your pick is at the top of the round. Especially the first SP taken at the end of the 2 nd round, 4 th, etc.



































