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Minor League Prospect Comparison: Nolan Arenado vs Anthony Rendon

PHOENIX, AZ - JULY 10:  U.S. Futures All-Star Nolan Arenado #12 of the Colorado Rockies stands on base during the 2011 XM All-Star Futures Game at Chase Field on July 10, 2011 in Phoenix, Arizona.  (Photo by Jeff Gross/Getty Images)

Today I'm bringing you a prospect comparison that was suggested and seconded by a few readers. I'm more than happy to do this type of thing for anyone that you guys are interested in. Just let me know in the comments and I'll make every effort to get them back to you, my adoring fans four readers who are not my family. If anyone is getting tired of these, let me know as well. I am working on a few other projects on the side, but figured I'd keep doing these because hey, everyone gets bored at work, amirite? Point is, if you all don't like these, I can shelve them but as long as you enjoy them, I will roll them out alongside some fresh content. Feel free to let me know on twitter (@cdgoldstein), email (goldstein.faketeams@gmail.com) or in the comments. On to the story...

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Anthony Rendon - 2B/3B - Nationals - That getting picked at 6th overall was considered a slide for Rendon will tell you all you need to know about how talented he is (don't worry though, I'm about to tell you a lot more). Rendon entered his junior year atop most mock drafts, but was limited to designated hitter by a strained shoulder, and has faced repeated injuries to his right ankle (torn ligaments in 2009 and a broken ankle in 2010). Despite all this, he has yet to garner the "injury prone" label, though there is some slight concern within the industry about his long-term health prospects. While he may not excel at staying 100% healthy, when he does play Rendon does plenty of things right. Rendon has tremendous control of the strike zone and the bat speed to make pitchers pay when challenging him over the plate. He generates that bat speed with strong hands and quick wrists, and shows a tremendous ability to barrel the ball on the bat using superb hand-eye coordination. Rendon has the type of hitting ability that could win him batting titles someday, and pairs it with an average-to-above power tool. His swing isn't perfect however, containing excess movement before it starts which can lead to timing issues. This is a minor quibble when looking at the overall package though. When it comes to defense Rendon is difficult to evaluate at the moment. As I mentioned earlier he DH'd the majority of his junior year, and is potentially facing a position change due to Ryan Zimmerman's presence at the hot corner in the nation's capital. However, based on when he was able to play in college, Rendon displayed smooth actions at third, with sharp instincts and an above-average arm. His arm strength is certainly in question given the lingering shoulder soreness, but his other abilities should remain intact. If he does get shifted to the keystone, his arm strength shouldn't come into play either way. His above-average range at third should translate well to decent range at second, though he won't ever be the most athletic player at the position. Rendon is a high ceiling, high floor, impact talent that shouldn't spend too much time in the minors. I wouldn't be surprised if he started at Hi-A this year and sees a promotion to Double-A at the half way point. We should see him break into the majors at some point next year.. My advice to you: Don't let him fall as far as he did in real life.

Nolan Arenado - 3B - Rockies - A lifetime .302 hitter in the minors, the hit tool has never been in question for the 2009 2nd round draft pick. Arenado broke out to the tune of 20 home runs and a .298/.349/.487 slash line in 2011. The power was a nice surprise after totaling only 14 home runs his first two years in the minors, though it came along with a near 100% increase in at-bats. Arenado has remarkable hand-eye coordination and strong, quick wrists (sound familiar?) that allow him to barrel the ball well and make consistent, hard contact. Arenado's 2011 is certainly impressive and will allow him to begin 2012 at Double-A Tulsa, however it's important to account for the environment that he played in as the California League is home to a bevy of hitters' havens and could have had an impact on his home run totals. A huge improvement that Arenado was able to make that isn't mitigated by his hitting environment is the massive upgrade in his walk percentage, going from 4.8% in 2010 to 8.1% in 2011, while facing more advanced pitchers. This bodes well for Arenado's future, as his production would be heavily affected by BABIP if his strikeout and walk rates remained similar to his 2010 numbers. Given the improvement to his walk rate, and with the hope that it's here to stay, his numbers become more stable year to year. That being said, Arenado will never be an on-base monster- but he won't strike out much either (9.1% in 2011). Along with improving his eye at the plate, Arenado spent a lot of time improving his conditioning between the 2010-2011 season and it showed in the field. He dropped 20 pounds last offseason and displayed improved range and footwork as a result, though neither is considered above average. Arenado has an impressive arm, showing a quick release and soft hands with plus accuracy. While there was talk of moving him across the diamond, Arenado quieted his doubters during 2011 and most think he will be able to stay at third base due to his notable work ethic and revamped physique. Despite the great extension he gets in his swing, Arenado doesn't project to hit for more than 20-25 home runs due to a relatively flat swing path. However, he will be playing half his games in Coors field, potentially as soon as July or August this year, and has shown the ability to hit the ball with some backspin. Given his work ethic, ability to make adjustments and projected playing environment, I could see Arenado posting several seasons in the 28-32 home run range and a slash line of .310/.350/.500 during his prime.

Choosing between Rendon and Arenado is like choosing between Minka Kelly and Mila Kunis... Yeah ,you might have your personal preference, but let's be real...you'll be happy to have a shot at either one. If you're looking for more immediate impact, Arenado is your guy, as there is speculation he could reach the majors after a nice start at Double-A. If you have time to spare, I do prefer Kelly...er... Rendon ever so slightly. There's clearly risk involved with his health and his potential transition to second base, but if he has even average power I think he ends up the more valuable of these two players. If he is able to stick at second base, his value increases even further as the standard for second base is considerably lower than third. I think you could make a case for either of these guys, and it's quite possible that I am falling victim to that cruel mistress named potential by choosing Rendon over Arenado, but hey- that's why we prospect, is it not?

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This one is kind of difficult but

I don’t see that Rendon has the upside compared to Arenado to overcome the concerns about his health. I’m not sure that I buy the idea that there must have been something horrible in his meds for him to slide to 6 in the draft, but the shoulder is a worry, especially if it forces a move off third. I’ve seen other people suggest that moving him to second is unlikely to work, and the bat you describe is a lot less special in the OF or at first.

Incidentally, I was under the impression recently that there was not a lot of difference in offence from second and third (different in that third has more power and second has more speed, but that there is not much difference in overall production).

by A Behemoth on Jan 25, 2012 8:26 AM EST reply actions  

The bar for third baseman production is considered higher than that for second baseman especially in terms of power production. I know many see him as a long term third baseman, but I think he could be passable at second for several years. Traditionally second baseman provide more speed, but in fantasy power is worth more (it affects more categories), so his hitting profile us even more valuable at second. I haven’t seen anyone who thinks he ends up in the outfield. The argument is really second or third. I am not concerned about his injuries but they needed to be addressed and if someone is concerned I think its valid.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 9:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

I know that third base is traditionally considered a higher bar position (although analysis has suggested the gap is not generally as much as people think). My point was that in recent years, and especially in 2011, there is very little difference in the performance of big league second and third basemen.

My concern is that, if he’s blocked at third (or his arm won’t hold up) and he doesn’t work out at second, then he has no real position that fits his bat well. I suspect that we know a lot more about Rendon by June or July really. If the Nats want him to play second, then starting to transition him asap makes sense, and if not, we should be able to see if his shoulder is better.

by A Behemoth on Jan 25, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that’s a fair concern, but as good as Rendon’s hit tool is, his bat should play anywhere. Doesn’t mean it will be as valuable but I think you could still get production. That being said, it seems highly unlikely at this point that he won’t have the arm for third. Despite his ankle injuries he has solid speed, so he should be passable at second as I said. But if he fails at both it would certainly hurt his value.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 9:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein at BP

Suggested his speed was now about 40-45 after the ankle injuries, and that this was why he thought that Rendon was not a good fit at second. I actually think that the Nats may end up not trying too hard to keep Zimmerman if Rendon develops as expected.

by A Behemoth on Jan 25, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve heard mention that Zimmermann could end up moved to 1B long term if they think Rendon will be the better fielder there. That said, I would imagine that Rendon’s bat would play at 1B as well, and they just happen to have a spot opening up at 1B by 2013 at the latest (LaRoche after 2012, Morse after 2013).

by Jason Hunt on Jan 25, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Zimmerman(n?)

Is supposed to be a pretty good defensive 3B as well. It sounds to me that Rendon and Zimmerman are both pretty similar if Rendon works out as expected – very solid defensive 3B (assuming Rendon’s shoulder works out), who have a very good to elite bat for the position. Either of them would be wasted at first.

by A Behemoth on Jan 25, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Even if

there is some sort of log jam once Rendon is up, it won’t be lasting Rendon’s entire career. Probably only a year or two. I remember Kevin Goldstein saying he didn’t think 2B would be Rendon’s long term landing spot. I think he’s right, things tend to work out differently over time than you thought and probably best just to treat Rendon as a 3B for now.

by HeLeftYouBagEnd on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw that grade as well, but there have been passable players at second base with 45 speed. He has great instincts as well and that should help his defense play up from his tools. I don’t think he would be ideal there but they might try to shoehorn him in at second and even if its ugly, it will help in fantasy. I agree his long term home is third but could see him passing at second for a few years.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Arenado...

I want to see him put up power numbers like last year in a league other than than Cal League before I truly buy into they hype.

by Mr. Homerun on Jan 25, 2012 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

Thats my fear as well

I think it helps him that he will be in a good hitting environment in Colorado, but his swing isn’t a 30 hr swing. I think he can get there though due to his work ethic and willingness to learn. If he can get some loft in his swing, he could be dangerous. But until he does that he’s going to rank below Rendon for me.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

I want to see how he fares in the Texas league and if the power is still on display.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jan 25, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The Cal League may inflate some numbers but Arenado's home park had literally

the worst RH HR park factor in baseball (40) while say High Desert is 160, I would be willing to bet Arenado hits 25-30 HR in Tulsa with it’s 103 factor.

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Jan 25, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But the league as a whole is benificial to hitters. You make some great points though. It’s not that I think he can’t do it, but I just want to see it first.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Writing up the Rockies Prospects

And I did not realize just how bad Modesto (Rockies High-A) is for hitters

His splits:

Home: .302/.346/.453 with 15 doubles, 3 triples, and 6 HR (258 AB)
Road: .293/.352/.521 with 17 doubles, 0 triples, and 14 HR (259 AB)

Modesto is pretty clearly the worst park to hit in for homeruns in the Cal League(BBTF has their 3-year weighted park multipliershere), and while there are a few parks that are also nearly this bad (Inland Empire, Lake Elsinore), the balancing out of the rest of the parks would lead me to believe that the numbers overall are a reasonable expectation for him in AA.

by Jason Hunt on Jan 25, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I see him as being maybe Placido Polanco with more power so maybe Jeff Cirrillo

from 25-31 Cirllo had a .313/.385/.462 line with 91HR(I expect Arenado to double that) a BB% around 10.5% and a K% around 11%. If he continues on this developement arc, given Coors extreme factor for 3B and 2B I think Arenado can be a top 5 fantasy third baseman given his likely RBI and Run totals.

"Self-control is the chief element in self-respect, and self-respect is the chief element in courage." ― Thucydides

by TomCat009 on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

That walk rate

May be ambitious. He improved a ton last year, no doubt, but scouting reports see him as an aggressive hitter so I wouldn’t anticipate a jump to 10% against better pitching. It’s definitely a possibility but I would expect it.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He did that already.

He did that one year earlier in the SAL league. His slugging actually went down last year. Have you actually looked at his numbers?

by HeLeftYouBagEnd on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

to be fair, he went from Asheville, one of the most offensive parks in the Rockies organization, to Modesto, the least offensive park in the Rockies organization.

by mkorpal on Jan 25, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

and in both cases we can conclude that while his parks/leagues have varied factors for home runs, overall we can say he wasn’t greatly driven by his environment. Given that, he has been consistent in his power production, so I don’t see a reason to act like last year was a huge breakout in the power production.

by HeLeftYouBagEnd on Jan 25, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

He hit 20 homers already. I was saying 30+. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Was talking to Mr. Homerun

He said he wanted to see this level of power production in a league other than the Cal League, and to me it seems he did in 2010.

by HeLeftYouBagEnd on Jan 25, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, my mistake. I see what you mean- he almost doubled his at-bats and went from 12-20 hrs, so you’re right there. At the same time I would still like to see him add some loft to his swing, but as it was pointed out, he’s 20 and is still growing and filling out as well.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Content

I like these, but some on slightly more obscure guys would also be welcomed.

by A Behemoth on Jan 25, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

good note

I can definitely do that.

by Craig Goldstein on Jan 25, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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