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The league is 5x5 roto with 14 teams and 27 ML keepers and 15 ml keepers. I inherited a team a year ago that had placed in the bottom 3 every year of the league's existence. Position slots are C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, IF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P. Since the keepers are so deep and there's no cost to keep anyone, many owners put a high premium on young ML players and the most elite prospects.

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If a player is in Yahoo's database, he's eligible for the ML roster. If a player is in the minors in real life and not on a rehab assignment, he's eligible for the ml roster, so some players are eligible for either roster, but I have put players on the ML roster whenever possible.

ML Roster:

Ramos C

Mesoraco C

Salvador Perez C

Kurt Suzuki C (used to balance a trade, will be gone soon)

Hosmer 1b

Trumbo 1b (3b? of?)

Goldschmidt 1b

Kipnis 2b

Giavotella 2b

Cozart SS

Hardy SS

Aramis Ramirez 3B

Morel 3B

Nunez 2b/ss/3b

Joe Benson OF

Jerry Sands 1B/OF

Leonys Martin OF

Grady Sizemore OF

Hanson SP

Hellickson SP

Romero SP

Holland SP

Teheran SP

Jarrod Parker SP

Aaron Crow RP

Eduardo Sanchez RP

Kenley Jansen RP

ml roster:

Spangenberg 2b

Schoop 2b/3b

Eddie Rosario 2b/of

Hak-Ju Lee ss

Bogaerts ss/3b

Javier Baez ss/3b

Cuthbert 3b

Mike Olt 3b

Bubba Starling of

Oscar Taveras of

Brandon Nimmo of

Brian Goodwin of

Brandon Jacobs of

Tyler Skaggs sp

Daniel Norris sp

I hope that if I can find some closers (hard to do in this league) and get lucky I can be competitive in 2012, but my focus is on competing long-term. Most of my minors are high upside guys who are far away, so I have to hope for a few to move fast or raise their trade value into the elite prospect range.

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your SP

seems very good

perhaps try to trade goldschmidt or trumbo cause you will have hosmer there for 10 years perhaps for an OF or RP

by TINO24 on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

With 1B, IF, and Util slots, I can play 3 1B in my lineup at the same time if I wish. If my OF develops around speed, this would allow me to keep plenty of power in the lineup.

I have to wait and see what the Angels do with Trumbo. He may be a part time player or start at 3B.

by rlwhite on Jan 20, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If you really are rebuilding, I’d focus on finding a trading partner for Aramis. He’s getting up there and will be on a sharp decline by the time you’re contending.

Thought: Since you’re deep at SS and 1B, and I’m not a fan of many of your SPs, see if you can get a bite on a package of Aramis, Trumbo/Goldschmidt, Lee/Bogaerts for Strasburg/Moore.

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by T.C. Engel on Jan 19, 2012 12:59 AM EST reply actions  

Keeping Aramis and Hardy is a question of whether I can be competitive now or need to dedicate those resources to the rebuild. I couldn’t get 3B and SS close to the majors that I liked.

I disagree that I’m deep at SS. Cozart is more of an average bat that won’t have much fantasy impact. Bogaerts and Baez are both expected to move, probably to 3B. Lee is my SS of the future, and Hardy is keeping the spot warm.

There are other teams in this league hoarding elite prospects while winning now, and they got the most elite guys (Harper, Trout, Moore, etc.) before I came into the league. If a guy was a top 10 prospect last winter and I don’t have him already, he wasn’t available for anything I ever had.

by rlwhite on Jan 20, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"How I'm doing?" You're being coy;

you are clearly smart enough to know the only way to rebuild a last-place team is via long term and by that standard you’ve done amazingly in amassed AMAZING potential. And you know it!

So instead of praising you, I’ll ask you a question because I am rebuilding my last-place team in a very similar way (and, oddly, with very similar players) and in this year’s draft I am eyeballing many other names on your roster:

Nimmo
B. Goodwin
B. Jacobs
Rosario
Cuthbert
and
Bogaerts

I have a lot of high-round picks and could a few of these.

May ask I them Mr Rebound, how you rank them?

Is there any batter I haven’t mentioned from your roster who you are especially excited about (besides Mesoraco who ’s on a roster)?

One piece of praise: I think the best player to rebuild any team around is Eric Hosmer.

best,

F’nth’d

by Fanthead on Jan 21, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

The potential’s there. I worry that the waves are too far apart, and that getting them closer together will require sacrificing a lot of potential. There’s also a lot of potential for guys to miss.

Those 6 guys are all very close in my opinion. Personally I’m excited about Rosario’s move to 2B. He’s polished for his age and his power surprised Twins officials. He probably has the least questions about his swing and his plate discipline among this group. If he sticks at 2B (and I’m cautiously optimistic there), he could be another Kipnis, which is a good thing for me because given the way the position usually wears players down Kipnis might begin to fade about the time Rosario arrives.

Rosario
Cuthbert – his late season fade concerns me less than Bogaerts’s plate discipline.
Bogaerts – kinda reminds me of young Andy Marte.
Goodwin – need to see some pro ABs before I get more excited.
Jacobs – discipline regressed in his late season fade after improving all season. The improvement was a great sign though for a kid in his 1st full season dedicated to baseball.
Nimmo – need more pro data. Amateur reports said he was the best pure hitter in the draft, but limited GCL action was disappointing.

I could easily reverse this list by going on pure upside.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by excited. Of course I excited to see Starling, Baez, Goodwin, and Nimmo get on the field and see what they can do. As far as a guy who might outperform expectations, I like Taveras. BA has doubted him at every turn, but he adjusted well in the AFL and there’s not much more to question.

by rlwhite on Jan 23, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Interested

Interested to see a list of the trades you’ve made?

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by KKKKyyylle on Jan 22, 2012 8:12 PM EST reply actions  

I wanted to provide that originally, but it’ll take a lot of time to dig up and assemble. I’ll see if I can.

by rlwhite on Jan 23, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Trade 1:
Received:
Josh Hamilton
Jeremy Hellickson
Jarrod Parker
John Lamb
Jake Odorizzi

sent:
Brett Gardner
Jordan Zimmermann
Drew Storen
Yonder Alonso

Trade 2:
Sent:
Matt Capps

Received:
Jason Kipnis

Trade 3:
Sent:
Josh Beckett
Arodys Vizcaino

Received:
Wade Davis
1st round ml draft pick
2nd round ml draft pick

Trade 4:
Sent:
Alexei Ramirez
Brian Fuentes
Jake Odorizzi

Received:
Aaron Crow
Eduardo Sanchez

  1. ml draft pick

Trade 5:
Sent:
Mike Napoli
Angel Pagan
Jordany Valdespin

Received:
Aramis Ramirez
Kurt Suzuki
Xander Bogaerts

The deals that netted Mesoraco, Hosmer, Hardy, Jansen, and Teheran are missing because the info is no longer available. The Hosmer and Teheran deals were built around Josh Hamilton and Justin Morneau respectively. Jansen came in one of those 2 deals. I believe Mesoraco came in a deal that sent Freese and/or Raburn the other way and involved more players.

by rlwhite on Jan 23, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Another trade:
Received:
Hak-Ju Lee
2nd round ml pick

Sent:
Trevor Bauer

by rlwhite on Jan 23, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Really admire your analysis, thanks

If you aren’t tired of this, I just gotta ask how you rank these ones:

Schoop
Benson
L. Martin
Sands
A. Crow

Also: Did you trade Trevor Bauer solely because you really wanted to get Hak-Ju & the pick or because of an additional lack of faith in Bauer?

Thanks! And good luck!

by Fanthead on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Guess I’d rank them:

Schoop – BA says he has the bat to play anywhere, and there’s actually debate within the Orioles as to whether he might be a better SS than Machado, although he’s more likely than Machado to outgrow it. I think he’s underrated because of the position question, but he would rate well at 3B or 2B.
Martin – I’m hoping his AA numbers are the norm and he just needs adjusting.
Benson – I think he’ll either make it as Mike Cameron-esque starter or be relegated to the bench.
Sands – I don’t know what to make of his bat yet. He was a ML FA in my league, so I have a low investment in him.
Crow – I traded for Crow when most people thought he’d become a closer, and I need future closers badly. If he becomes a mid-rotation starter I’ll be disappointed because that has limited fantasy value. I don’t really know how to rank him right now.

I traded Bauer mostly because I needed someone who was likely to stick at SS as a fantasy performer. I don’t believe Cozart will have significant fantasy impact, and the SS’s in my minors all project to move to 3B or 2B. I decided I could afford to trade Bauer because I read the scouting reports as saying he is a very likely #2 SP with an outside shot at being a #1. (This comes down to the requirement that an SP have plus command to make the jump from #2 to #1 in a scouting sense. Command is the biggest knock on Bauer from what I read.) My rotation is good enough that it will take aces to crack it in the near future. Also, most prospect rankings have Bauer and Lee within 5-10 spots of each other, so the value difference isn’t that great. Lee should give me a lot of SB (a need for me) at the position I had the hardest time filling.

by rlwhite on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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