Real Winners of Sea/Yanks Trade

by Nate973 on Jan 15, 2012 3:04 PM EST

Pineda and Montero were already going to be starters regardless of the trade. I say "real winners", because these guys will have their roles expanded because of the trade. Hector Noesi will now slot in as a starting pitcher for the Seattle Mariners, while Eduardo Nunez could see a couple of starts a week while the older regime on the Yankees spend some time as the DH. Let's take a look at both of these guys after the jump.

Hector Noesi - Mariners SP

Noesi, who shouldn't be viewed as a throw-in, can be a nice surprise at the end of Seattle's rotation. Not as highly regarded as some of the Yankees other pitching prospects, he pitched rather well for the Yanks in relief. Other than 3 or 4 appearances (out of 30) he was pretty solid. He had 64 starts in the minors (out of 84 appearances) and totaled a WHIP of 1.10. He also had a 8.7 K/9 in the minors (7.2 last year in the majors). He will get some help pitching at Safeco, and might be able to garner 8-10 wins, with a sub-4.00 ERA.

Eduardo Nunez - Yankees ss/3b

Nunez, as a 24-year old rookie, started 85 games last year as the Yankees utility infielder (he did play a couple of games in the outfield as well). He could get a couple of starts a week while Joe Girardi gives some DH time to Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter. He has very good speed having totaled 22 stolen bases in 28 attempts. He has a decent bat and can possibly hit .275 with double-digit home runs with some decent playing time. The Yankees do like his abilities, and have been reluctant to trade him as they see him as possible replacement for Jeter in a couple of years. There is a possibility that the Yankees add another bat, but it might be just a part-time player who will only hit against lefties.

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What does Nunez have to do with the trade?

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by The Chair of Knowledge on Jan 15, 2012 4:23 PM EST reply actions

DH spot opens up...

….now that montero is not there. His playing time will increase because of that.

by Nate973 on Jan 15, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Cashman won't settle with Nunez as his DH

He’s gonna go after someone like Carlos Pena.

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by The Chair of Knowledge on Jan 15, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions

Nunez

Will never DH. I think the Yanks are going to want the flexibility to DH A-Rod and Jeter at least once a week, which would leave Nunez to start at ss/3b at least twice a week. I do agree that they will sign another bat. But I think they will take into consideration the ability to rest their aging vets. Sorry, I wasn’t clear about that in my post

by Nate973 on Jan 15, 2012 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

this is probably right

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions

saw moneyball.

we need Hatty, not pena

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions

Real Winners of Sea/Yanks Trade

anybody who didn’t have Montero and Pineda on their fantasy teams

His 2011 wRC+ is 26

by Pikachu on Jan 15, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

People are overestimating the whole "Now he pitches in Yankee Stadium" BS, meaning he will give up lots of homeruns and have a high ERA

He only pitches about half his games at home, while he plays with the Yankee offense every game he starts. He gonna win lots of games

by netsfanrasmus on Jan 15, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions

Never draft a player for wins

You can’t predict run support, but you have the ability to estimate a pitchers future production, and a fly ball pitcher who now gets to pitch in Camden Yards, The Rogers Centre, Fenway and Yankee Stadium a boatload of times each year will be in trouble. He won’t be able to get lefties out unless he develops a solid third pitch. Pineda is someone I’d avoid at all costs.

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by dudedudedude on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions

u can predict run support tho

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions

Montero

is still gonna hit. He’s ALWAYS hit. While his HR totals might not be what fantasy owners will want, he’s going to be playing Catcher 3 times a week AND he’ll probably put up a line of .280/.350/.480 in his first season.

by JoelGuzman'sScout on Jan 16, 2012 7:20 AM EST up reply actions

I highly doubt he plays catcher 3 times a week

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by The Chair of Knowledge on Jan 16, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

Will Montero play catcher at all?

In my fantasy league, a player only needs to play at a position 5 times to qualify in-season, and 20 times to qualify at that position for the following season. I’m considering buying low on him in hopes he qualifies, though I see little reason for the Mariners to play him there

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by The Congo Hammer on Jan 17, 2012 2:48 AM EST reply actions

5 times

easily. They will give him a shot at catcher. I would have to believe 20 times is also safe. They want Montero to be the catcher. They will give him every chance to win this job. He also has an ex-catcher as a manager, who will want to prove that he can make him a catcher. For this year, and next based on your league’s qualifications, I would buy low with the idea he will be a catcher

by Nate973 on Jan 17, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions