Excerpts from Keith Law Chat
ESPN's prospect expert and Moneyball panner Keith Law held a chat on Thursday afternoon and here are some exxerpts:
Avi (New Jersey)
I've seen you refer to Jesus Montero as a "front foot hitter". Can you explain what this means?
Klaw (1:14 PM)
He gets his weight on his front foot - I actually haven't seen him live this year, so this is a scouting take based primarily on previous looks - as opposed to most hitters who stay back and transfer their weight later during their swing. Montero is just so damn strong that he can hit for power anyway.
Montero has regained his trade value with his power display in his first few weeks up in the big leagues. He is hitting .286-.359-.571 with 3 HRs, 6 RBI, and 7 runs in his first 10 games in the big leagues.
Johnny ((Bmore))
KLaw, any thoughts on Matt Wieters' end of the season? Is there a chance he is proving that it takes switch-hitting catchers a while to figure it out. Thoughts on his career going forward?
Klaw (1:28 PM)
I'd like to understand why he's showing such an enormous, persistent platoon split this year. I don't remember ever seeing a substantial difference between his two swings, or feeling like he didn't see the ball well when hitting LH.
Wieters is hitting .231-.283-.365 with 10 HRs and 39 RBI in 342 at bats hitting left-handed vs right pitchers, and is hitting .348-.429-.696 with 10 HRs and 24 RBI in 115 at bats hitting right handed vs lefty pitchers.
More excerpts after the jump:
Josh (Phx)
The NL MVP debate will likely come down to the term "Valuable", does it mean stats or team position. In terms of stats, Braun is the best (50 less late appearances than Kemp which coorelates to less RBI, HR's etc.) vs . "valuable" which is Upton. NO way the Dbacks are where they are without Uptons breakout season. Your thoughts?
Klaw
(1:42 PM)Kemp is pretty clearly the MVP now.
Hell yeaahhhh!!! Now he just has to come around on Clayton Kershaw for NL Cy Young award. I might have to post something here soon on just that. Kershaw has had a better year than Roy Halladay in my opinion.
By the way, the Diamondbacks are where they are today because of Ian Kennedy, Daniel Hudson and their bullpen. Upton has had a very good year, but Kennedy and Hudson are on the cusp of being aces. I am surprised someone from Phoenix would give Upton that much credit.
Bill (St. Petes )
Looks like LoMo officially filed a grievance against the Marlins for demoting him, according to Amy Nelson. What can he gain? Lost wages?
Klaw (1:53 PM)
How about a trade? That seems like the best outcome for him.
I was shocked when I read this, to be honest. I thought that had blown over and everyone in the Marlins clubhouse and front office were high-fiving each other. Is it a coincidence that news of the grievance came after Mike Cameron was released for an argument with a flight attendant? Then again, maybe it wasn't an argument.
Dylan (Kingsville)
Brett Lawrie do you buy the comp by scouts = Ryan Braun
Klaw (2:02 PM)
Kind of fits - another strong, athletic guy, plays all out, looks like he should be able to handle 3b but it doesn't play out that way.
And Alex Anthopolous is smiling ear to ear. I guess he figured that if he couldn't beat the beasts of the AL East with pitching, he would beat them with the bats, and he got one of the better ones in Lawrie.
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You and your dodgers
“Now he just has to come around on Clayton Kershaw for NL Cy Young award. I might have to post something here soon on just that. Kershaw has had a better year than Roy Halladay in my opinion.”
Everyone and their grandma knows Halladay has had a better season.
really?
how so? take a look at their stats lately?
Don’t worry, I am already working on something for Monday.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 17, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you make it sound like Kershaw isn't even close
how is Halladay running away with it?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 17, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Kershaw gets ridiculous love for being the young guy
Halladay is not only the top candidate for the Cy Young, but he should also be the top candidate for the MVP. Of course, the baseball writers association also gives players mad love for being the young guy so Kershaw gets way more credit than he deserves. His current FIP is the lowest since Pedro Martinez in 1999. The best pitchers season since 1999 and you are seriously ready to give credit to Kershaw? That makes no sense.
MVP???
on the best team in baseball? that team would still win the NL East without Halladay.
way more credit than he deserves? wow….what else do you want the guy to do? Kershaw has been tremendous this season and absolutely dominant in the second half. His FIP of 2.37 is nothing to sneeze at.
You should watch him pitch sometime. He gets the Giants in his next start vs Lincecum. He’s 3-0 with a 0.00 ERA against them this season.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 17, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You are so old school in your thinking
It doesn’t matter which team a player plays for. Halladay would be just as valuable to the Dodgers as Kemp if they switched places. You can’t punish players for being on a good team, that’s just ludicrous.
I’m not saying Kershaw has been awful or anything, in fact he has been great, but he’s just not in the same category as Halladay, and that’s not an insult, because no one is.
Watching him pitch would do nothing for me, but it does for most people which is the issue. He’s flashy. People love flashy so he gets a huge boost in reputation. Watch Halladay, and you see pin point precision and perfect execution, but that’s not what people want to see.
by dudedudedude on Sep 17, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
so its ok
to watch Halladay pitch and not Kershaw? you lost me with that last comment. I don’t get how Kershaw is flashy. He’s a pitcher.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 17, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying either should or should not be watched
What I’m saying is there will always be players who put on a show when they play. Halladay is not that kind of guy. He is strictly business. Kershaw is the youngster with a nasty slider and can go out and strike 10 guys out on any given night. People remember flashes of dominance, not consistency.
by dudedudedude on Sep 17, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
take a look at Kershaw's game logs
on Fangraphs……he has more games of 6 IP and 2 runs or less than Halladay this season.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 17, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh useless facts
Halladay has more starts of 7 IP and 3 ER or less. So what? I’m sure there is a million stats like this that we can go back and forth on, but that’s not how you evaluate a players season. There isn’t a logical reason to give Kershaw the Cy Young at this point. I’m really intrigued at the arguments you will be making in your article on Monday. Might want to keep stats like this out of it though, because it means nothing in the long haul when I can do the same with other stats for Halladay.
by dudedudedude on Sep 17, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
because you say so? so what? no, they mean more than what you think..
Kershaw has better stats than Kershaw and you cone back with “so what:”
is that all you have?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 18, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No
What I’m saying is I can pull out just as many silly facts like that about Halladay as you can about Kershaw, but they don’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Useless stats are useless.
by dudedudedude on Sep 18, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
useless
what is useful and not useful? i point out Kershaw has outperformed Halladay and you call it useless.
Is that all you got? it’s useless?
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 18, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
What has he outperformed him in?
Those are stupid stats. We can argue all day over stats like these. Use the ones that matter.
by dudedudedude on Sep 18, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
like stupid ones?
what is stupid? that he had more quality starts than Halladay? more wins? a lower ERA? more Ks? what? all stupid?
what stats are not stupid?
you argue with no support other than calling something silly, stupid or something else and provide nothing more than that.
Halladay pitches for a team that will win 100 games…..and you say he is the MVP? THAT’s ridiculous.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Sep 18, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What kind of numbers are you looking at?
Halladay has more quality starts than Kershaw. Halladay has a lower FIP, in fact the lowest FIP of the 2000’s. We all know ERA is a joke. K’s are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Maddux never struck out guys at an alarming rate yet he is a top 5 pitcher all time.
I explained why it’s silly, yet you felt the need to ignore my post. I can’t help your illiteracy.
Since when has playing for a good team ever meant a player is not valuable? That’s the worst logic I’ve ever heard. Whether or not they play for a good team, they are equally valuable. This isn’t the most marginally valuable player award.
You can’t possibly make a case beyond pure homerism. Please stop, you’re only embarrassing yourself at this point. Kershaw has had a good season, but he isn’t anywhere close to Halladay.
by dudedudedude on Sep 18, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Very interesting you should use this argument.
MVP???
on the best team in baseball? that team would still win the NL East without Halladay.
When many, many people are overlooking the same point in promoting Curtis Granderson and any of Adrian Gonzalez, Jacoby Ellsbury and Dustin Pedroia over Jose Bautista as the AL MVP winner.
Very interesting.
by transmogrifier on Sep 19, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions

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