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I need some keeper help, from people not invested in my two teams.  They have gotten markedly worse for the past few seasons. I need fresh eyes.

Team 1: I am keeping Frank Gore.  I need two more keepers from the combination of Miles Austin, Joe Flacco, Calvin Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, Matt Schaub, Mike Tolbert, Wes Welker, CJ Spiller

Team 2: Again keeping Gore.  The I again need two keepers from  Ronnie Brown, Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, Joe Flacco, Brandon JacobsTony Romo, Steve Smith (Car), Reggie Wayne, CJ Spiller

 

I know who I would eventually choose, but I desperatly need fresh eyes here.  I have fallen off badly in these leagues, partially because of mistakes with keepers. 

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League 1 – I’d probably keep Calvin Johnson and Miles Austin. I haven’t looked too intently yet, but QB seems deep just at first glance.

League 2 – Based on who you have, I’d probably keep Romo and Wayne. I think that those two are probably the closest to safe among that bunch, and also have the highest upside as well. Vernon Davis would probably be my 3rd in line after those two.

by Jason Hunt on Jul 21, 2011 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Other - League 1

Lloyd and Welker are decent keepers for League 1 also. It’s close between those 2 and Austin.

by rmarx on Jul 22, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

100% as well, easy call

by Jax5 on Jul 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Team 1- Johnson and Austin
Team 2- Crabtree and Wayne

Shrimp, Steak, Liquor, and Pasta
.

by KINGSLYTUT on Jul 21, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

1. Johnson and welker
2. Davis and wayne.
welker will outpreform austin, because dez bryant will be the new #1 in dallas. and i see austin (who wasnt really a good wr in the first place) dropping in stats, especially with an iconsistent and injuy poned qb behind him.
davis and wayne are the clear top 2 talents in league 2. followed by jacobs and crabtree.
i also would consider trading gore whenever you get the chance.
he’s not gonna produce this year

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 21, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Format?

Vital question. PPR? 2 QB? Flex?

1. Austin and MegaTron. MegaTron is your best keeper here.

2. I doubt Ronnie Brown is draftable. Wayne and Romo I guess, yet I don’t like this set of keepers in the slightest.

Jeff Mathis = sure fire 1st ballot Hall of Fame inductee

by YouthofToday on Jul 22, 2011 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

austin is over-rated.

not really a good reciever

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 22, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you high?

How is he overrated? How not a good receiver?

by dudedudedude on Jul 22, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How is he not*o

by dudedudedude on Jul 22, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

pro-bowls dont make you a good reciever.

he’s a terrible route runner. and his stats were inflated by a team that did not run at all the past 2 seasons.
he is overrated. the cowboys did not run and only passed the past to seasons. and he’s stats were inflated by it.
you’ll see them go down when the cowboys start to run and the better reciever in dez bryant takes over the #1 spot.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 22, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have no running game this season either

What makes you think the Cowboys are going to run all of the sudden?

by dudedudedude on Jul 22, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

new coaching staff basically.

wade phillips sucked, and their new coach sys they will try and focus more on the run.
also the fact that austin is not the # anymore will have to do with his fantasy #’s droping

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 22, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

New head coach sure, but Garett is pass happy, will still be calling the plays and Bryant is not the number 1, where you got that from is beyond me.

by dudedudedude on Jul 23, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

um. bryant is their best talent at the position. so i assume he is gonna win out the #1 spot. like most other people.

and they aren’t gonna pass anywhere near what they did under phillips.
they need to balance it out. and will

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garett called the plays under Phillips, he is still calling the plays. He isn’t a run first guy, he never has been and never will be. Bryant is not better than Austin, sorry.

by dudedudedude on Jul 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

jason garret will most deffinitley run more.

and bryant is way better than austin. you are an idiot if you think otherwise.
bryant is better than austin in every facite of the game.
i can tell you just watch espn and listen to what ever they say without an opinion of your own. so im done

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why will Garret run more?

You make blind statements with absolutely no reasoning and treat it as fact.

by dudedudedude on Jul 23, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

because i've seen him and many other cowboys point out and say that they need to run more.

and he knows the only way to win is to run more. so he will run more.
you have no idea what your talking about. and think you do

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

So GB won on a running game? The Colts won on a running game? This is a past first league, and the Cowboys don’t have a good run game, so they will pass. Romo is a great QB, and your Giants boner is clearly messing your head. You are honestly, the single handled dumbest poster this site has ever seen. Good day.

by dudedudedude on Jul 24, 2011 7:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the colts and packers have good passing games tho.

they have 2 QB’s who can carry a team. the cowboys do not.
the cowboys need to run to win.
you have no idea what your saying

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LT is all knowing duh.

Sike Miles is a good receiver and LT is too jealous because Nicks and Smith aren’t the better combo of Miles and Dez.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol. J2 i knew you could keep your sense of humor

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

steve smith will probbaly stay with the panthers or wash will overpay for him.

SS12. will resign a 1 year proove you’re healthy deal. and be placed on the pup.
i mean its hilarious that you tink dallas has the best recieving corps in the division.
they are no where near nicks and smith/ manningham
or maclin and djax/avant
and i hate djax sooo much more than i hate any dallas player.
the best wr’s in the division are
1. nicks
2. maclin
3. dez
4. Djax
5. SS12
6. Mario
7. Avant
8. Austin
9. Moss (higher when healthy)

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicks #1?

Try doing it for more than another season. Dez will be better than Nicks. HAHA

DJackson > Nicks

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol. you are sucha idiot when it comes to football.

ask anyone at BBV or BGN amd they will tell you that this list is near correct. they may change it in a few places. but they dont have djax ahead of nicks.
(dont tell them its my list ofcourse)
you know so little about football my friend. stick wth bball and baseball

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

A huh.

Keep playing it off as if I’m dumb. I read the comments at BGN. They think you’re a homer. You’re not football intelligent. But I’m done with arguing with a 12 year old.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

idc what they think. they are mad cuz for three days. they talked about nothing but me.

most of them are idiots.
but they all know that austin sucks

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

i’m not gonna troll like i did at BGN.
maybe i will. just to let all you dallas fans know exactly how much austin sucks.
but not gonna be their as much as i was at bgn. bbv, or am at P&T.
iits football season!!!

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you cant see them here?

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Austin

33 catches for 486 yards in weeks 1-5 before Romo went down. This after 1,320 yards in the last 12 games of 2009. While he’s no Hakeem Nicks Austin is certainly an above average WR talent wise — and production wise.

Jeff Mathis = sure fire 1st ballot Hall of Fame inductee

by YouthofToday on Jul 22, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now!

How dare you come in here spouting off actual statistics that mean something! You must be stooopid.

<Of course I’m only kidding>

by rmarx on Jul 22, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

well your mocking of me has failed.

because while i may be a casual baseball fan and not know the most specifics of details. i know more football than most people around. and you guys are wrong

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 22, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

you were correct about one thing. above average production wise. not talent wise.

you cant count the stats when te cowboys didnt run at all. and besides a rookie he was their only actual serviciabale reciever.
he sucks at route running.
the cowboys were near the bottom at rushing attempts for the time you mentioned. and therefore his stats were inflated.
pro-bowls mean nothing like the stats that you put up. he is an over-rated reciever. not nearly as good as espn says he is (like with most players espn talks about)
and his numbers will go down this year with an injury proned qb. who shrivles up under pressure.
he is not the best wr on his team, you will see that when dez bryant takes over as the #1 next year

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 22, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Austin

Dez is the better talent and will become the #1 in Dallas this season. That said, while Austin’s route running does need improvement it’s not nearly as bad as some here make it out to be — and you don’t need to be a route running technician to be a very successful WR (Randy Moss only runs 1 route well – the 9). Austin will end up with another 1,000 yard season in 2011.

Dallas will continue to lean on the passing game in 2011. Their defense is going to be shaky and the team will need to put up points to secure a playoff spot.

Jeff Mathis = sure fire 1st ballot Hall of Fame inductee

by YouthofToday on Jul 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

randy moss has better speed and height thatn austin.

he was made for that route. and its a lot harder for the big guys to run routes the way austin should. his route running sucks.
and you may be right about him getting 1,000 yds. (i think it’ll be closer to 800) but that doesnt mean he is a good reciever. he is the single most over-rated reciever in football. he is everything that you don’t want in a reciever.
you put him on any balanced team. or a passing team with good recievers. and his #‘s drop and i mean far.
the only reason people think he’s good is cuz of stats (i hate people like that). but his stats are inflated by a terrible dallas running game.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Austin

Football Outsiders had Austin as the 17th best WR in 2010 according to DVOA. While advanced stats in football aren’t as informative as advanced stats are in other sports to claim Austin is not an elite WR is frankly ludicrous.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr

Jeff Mathis = sure fire 1st ballot Hall of Fame inductee

by YouthofToday on Jul 24, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

well 17th best doesnt make you elite. so using your own rankings. you have proven yourself wrong.

ask somebody that actually knows what they are talking about. and you’ll find out.
their are maybe 5-10 elite wr’s.
and you dont become elite off stats.
austin has speed and average size.
he gets all his stats off a shitty running game, and basic routes across the middle. he is no where near elite. and just cracks top 10 in his division.
so please, go ask somebody that knows what their talking about. because you and shit for brains below you have no idea how to properly rank a football player. and apparentley dont think for yourselfs.
Austin is NOT elite.
and if you consider anyone in the top 20 to be elite. than you do not know the meaning of the word

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the fact that mike wallace is ranked #1 on that list of stats. prooves how much it matters

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

1. Your use of bad language shows you truly are an immature 15 year-old. BTW, how much about the game of football do you really know to make such bold statements.
2. Do you know what DVOA is?

While I agree with you there are probably only 5-10 elite WR in the league and I shouldn’t have placed Austin in this class. That said, he certainly is a top 25 WR in regards to talent, which is the consensus in the NFL.

The NFL has Austin as the 70th best player in the league entering 2011. http://top100.nfl.com/

While I do believe the list is far from ideal, Donovan McNabb at 100?!?!, it shows that players around the league respect his talents.

by YouthofToday on Jul 25, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. Your use of bad language shows you truly are an immature 15 year-old. BTW, how much about the game of football do you really know to make such bold statements.

eh, i wouldnt say immature. its just how we talk these days. it meant no disresect. and if it offended you i’ll stop.
i know more football than just about anybody i know. i have played it my whole life. and know just everything their is to know about the sport itself. their are a very little amount of people that know more than me

2. Do you know what DVOA is?

“Defense-adjusted Value Over Average. This number represents value, per play, over an average WR in the same game situations. The more positive the DVOA rating, the better the player’s performance” basically a stat based off stats. like say a WR runs a curl. it judges how that play turned out against another wr running the same route. so again its based soley off stats. and has mike wallace ranked #1. so i wouldnt count it as much of a judgement for the best players.
While I agree with you there are probably only 5-10 elite WR in the league and I shouldn’t have placed Austin in this class. That said, he certainly is a top 25 WR in regards to talent, which is the consensus in the NFL.

Idk, i’d say austin is top 35-40 talent wise. and top 20 statistic wise. i mean, idk how you can have him better tan any of the giants or eagles 3 recievers, or how anyone can say he’s better than Dez. he has inflated stats, and sucks at route running. his hands are average but just barely. he doesnt have the ability to shake off a quality corner, and his cathing in trafic ability is poor. which means when he gets hit immediatley after cathing it, it doesnt turn out so well. or when he’s in a tight space, and someone is going at him, he usually doesnt catch it.
he is not to great of a reciever. you can put many #4 reciever’s in his spot and they will perform aswell.
The NFL has Austin as the 70th best player in the league entering 2011. http://top100.nfl.com/

dude really? come on. please tell me that was a joke.
this list is much farther from ideal. they have donovan mcnab in the top 100 and they say the list was based off of only the 2010 season. i mean WTF. they have a rookie eric berry up their. and while he was good his rookie season. their are many other players who were snubbed that performed much much better.
i’m sorry, but idk if you putting that up their was serious or a joke?

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're the same at every blog.

You annoy people with your outrageous claims then your sorry and still make fun of an idea that isn’t yours. When majority agrees with the person you’re arguing against.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

please tell me where i apologized here.

its not my fault these people and evry dallas fan thinks miles austin is an elite reciever

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a top WR.

Not elike an Andre or Fitzgerald, but he’s a top WR.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

no he's not Jete

please tell me you are not like all the other dalla fans. i thought you knew something.
you know he’s over-rated right?
you know that his stats are inflated. c’mon. you really think he’s good?
he’s not even the best on his team.
if it weren’t for dez. you and washington be fighting for the 3rd spot in the best wr corps in the division

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if you think I know nothing.

Because you clearly are a hater. Romo isn’t one of the worst NFL Qb’s as you have in your sig. And Miles isn’t a bad WR.

Your Giant goggles are on.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know romo isnt one of the worst. im not an idiot. he is about #12 on my list

and miles is not a good wr. your dallas goggles are on.
(what is you’re top 10 qb list. and you’re top 10 wr list?)

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

im sorry for offending you. but i'd aprreciate it if you stop calling me a 12 year old. little one
I read footballoutsiders.com bro.

what does that mean?
so what. they teach you about the NFL. it has nothing to do with your football knowledge.
but anyway. what is your lists

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well what's with the little one?

You did start naming me that too before I called you 12.

And I know that sounds dumb, but I’m fully aware about football. I’ve been a Cowboys fan since 3rd grade.

by Jeterian 2 on Jul 25, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been a giants fan since pre-school.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

well actually birth. but really started watching games in pre-school and kindergarden.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

link me. too where the list is and i will.

(i’d prefer to do it in nutural ground. but i can see you want some of your homer fans to blindlessley back you up.)

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You all are really lucky.


I have LT at the Knicks blog.
 
The Yankees blog banned him and we don’t like the same football team. Thank you!!!

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh. and i have to wait a day.

so here is my list (btw. yours sucks. you put rodgers twice just to keep eli off. and put romo in eli’s #7 spot)
1. Peyton (one of the. if not the single best qb ever. the iq of his arm is more than most people’s brain)
2. Brady (full of self. but a great winner. great playoff guy.)
3. Rodgers (2 if he can perform the way he has)
4. Brees (great player. that is all)
5. Vick (after next season when he gets hurt. off the top 10. but he is a dynamic player. and tho i hate him. deservant of this spot. )
6. Rivers (not a playoff performer. not a winner. deadly accurate. but if he were in a colder climate. or a tougher division. wouldnt crack top 8. maybe not 10)
7. Eli (would be higher if it werent for his turnovers. a true leader.)
8. Ben (an overrated qb. but he wins. well his team wins. but he is better than a lot of other guys out their. he doesnt do anything great. but an average amount of everything. which makes him this high)
9. Schaub (if he could get some blocking. and maybe some defense. in a perfect situation to improve his ranking)
10. Free-man (on the rise. he doesnt make the list if it werent for his pottential. a real leader. and a fun guy)
11. Ryan (a very over-rated qb. im suprised i put him this high)
12. Romo (a solid starter. nothing special. injury prone. and his stats are padded by a turrible dallas rushing attack. that said. i’d take him over a lot of guys in this league)
1,000. Kevin Kolb (extremley overrated by iggle fans. not a starting caliber QB. not worth anything ore than a 2 and a 3)

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freeman Way to High

1. Totally agree on Kolb.
2. I would take Stafford over Ryan and Freeman.
3. Ben has suffered thanks to one of the worst OLs in the NFL. I would take him over Eli, who has benefited from one of the best olines in the NFL and a decent WR core yet still couldn’t carry his team to the playoffs last year.

by YouthofToday on Jul 25, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt take stafford over freeman.

i like freemans pottential to staffords. but you’re right that he may be too high.

3. Ben has suffered thanks to one of the worst OLs in the NFL. I would take him over Eli, who has benefited from one of the best olines in the NFL and a decent WR core yet still couldn’t carry his team to the playoffs last year

while you are right to an extent.
ben had a better team around him. now eli has had a great oline (but they have been hurt an old the last 2 seasons).
ben has veteran wr’s around him.
while eli has ha to play with one of the youngest wide recieving cores in the league. ben had experience around him. and for the last few years eli has been playing with wr’s all under 25 basically.
i put eli ahead of ben because, well they both do different things great.
eli imo. is the better qb. eli is a better leader and character. he’s tougher (2nd longest qb start streak in the nfl only behind his brother). the guy is one of the more accurate and aware qb’s in the league. the only real knocks on him are his turnovers (which can be cut easily and his brother.
most of eli’s turnovers were off his recievers hands.
im not saying ben isnt good. but i dont see him as a better qb than eli

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets also remember things like who the QB enjoys throwing to.

Romo/Austin good combo. Kitna/Dez good combo. When I find out Kitna has won the job Ill consider Dez a better pick then Austin. As for now Romo has always worked best with Austin and Witten. I believe there are quote of Dez bashing Romo about not passing to him enough.

Dez has fantastic upside still no reason to take him over a proven WR who works better with the starting QB

"You think our war drill is something now. Next year is going to be fist fighting."- Tom Izzo
Go Spartans

by msufan23 on Jul 24, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

romo played barely half the season. and is a rookie. so using half year stats on a rookie verse a guy thats been their a few years tells me nothing

romo never really had to much of a chance to throw to an unproven rookie. so how can you say what you said?
and if you’re talking fantasy. dont discount dez’s return yards. he is the more valuable pick. and clearly the more talented player

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 24, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Return Yards

Less than 5 percent of fantasy leagues use return yards as a category.

by YouthofToday on Jul 25, 2011 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

well eventually next season. i its not in the preseason. dez will take over the #1 spot.

so i’d deffinitley draft him over austin

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

How can Romo and Austin suck?

Wouldn’t at least one of the two have to be good to get those numbers? So it’s either both are great players, Romo is the greatest QB in the history of the game and Austin sucks, or Romo is no better than Ryan Leaf and Austin is the new Jerry Rice. You’re call.

by dudedudedude on Jul 25, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

romo is a fine qb. he's not top 10. but a very fine starter.

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

why? i dont like the guy

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Look LIke a Clueless Idiot Stating That in Your Signature

Change it to something personal then, not based on his talent, which you have already deemed to be worthy of a top 12 QB… unless you think the 12th best QB in your own rankings is “one of the worst QBs in the NFL”.

by YouthofToday on Jul 25, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay. i will change it to something derogative towards him

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is one of the worst qb's in the NFL face it dallas fans
"bleeding green nation" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 25, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

class has nothing to do with internet

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is a little bitch "oww my finger" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 26, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Having class should be demonstrated in everything a person does. Just because one can hide behind the anonymity of the Internet doesn’t mean one should stop being civil. A good rule is if you wouldn’t say it to somebody’s face don’t say it at all.

by YouthofToday on Jul 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope.. believe me. of any one i know. i'd be the one to say it to someones face.

i dont believe in talking infront of peoples backs.
i say it to their face.
tho. i cant really do that over the internet can i?

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman
Lebron james is a bitch
The new Prince of NY is here
Desean Jackson IS a punk
27 Going on 28 NYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ3K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tony romo is a little bitch "oww my finger" <-- i took it down. they will never forget!!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jul 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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