MLB Trade Rumors: Chase Utley To Have Surgery, Dan Haren To Phillies, Jayson Werth On The Move?
by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT
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PrintThe Phillies are dominating the MLB headlines today with news from Peter Gammons that second baseman Chase Utley will have surgery on his right thumb and will be out 5-6 weeks. Tough blow for the Phillies.
It was also reported today that the Phillies have interest in dealing for Diamondbacks ace Dan Haren. Is this in response to the Mets interest in Cliff Lee? Also, didn't Ruben Amaro deal Cliff Lee to the Mariners to bolster their farm system, and now he is looking to deal for Dan Haren? Who would he have to give up? Certainly not Domonic Brown, who is proving he is close to being ready for a call up. I guess the Diamondbacks could ask for a package headed by Low-A starting pitcher Jarred Cosart, AAA closer Scott Mathieson, High-A starting pitcher Trevor May and Low-A catcher Sebastian Valle.
And now we hear from Tom Krasovic over at AOL Fanhouse, as he is reporting that the Phillies are listening to offers for right fielder Jayson Werth. Here is an excerpt:
Heard this from a major league exec: The Phillies are evaluating the trade market for outfielder Jayson Werth.
Was told he's the best bat that could be dealt by July 31st. Surprised me to hear it. Werth's right-handed bat seems crucial to the left-leaning Phils. But Werth has said he will explore free agency this offseason, and the Phillies could replace him now with prospect Domonic Brown, a left-handed hitter. Recent injuries to hitters Placido Polanco and Chase Utley would argue against the Phils dealing Werth, who certainly would attract interest.
Amaro trading Werth is certainly something that would not surprise me.
UPDATE from MLB.com's Todd Zolecki:
Chase Utley had surgery this morning in New York. Timetable to return unknown, but MLB Network's Gammons says 4-6 weeks.
UPDATE (6:05PM)
Utley has surgery today and will be out for eight (8) weeks, while Polanco will be out for four (4) weeks. Expect a few trades in the near future to fill these needs. Miguel Tejada and Ty Wigginton are possibilities, especially with today's call-up of third base prospect Josh Bell by the Orioles.
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Where could they send Werth?
Off the top of my head, teams that could use an outfielder and are in the race:
Braves, Rays, Padres, Cardinals, maybe the White Sox?
I can’t imagine that if they plan to stay in the race, they’d ever move anyone to the Braves to help them.
As for Utley, I bet they go get someone – Jose Lopez seems like a really good fit depending on his contract – he can play 2B and 3B and theoretically has some pop in his bat.
Yankees?
The Yanks have been known to just buy the best talent and put that player where he is needed (see A-Fraud). I can see them buying Werth with a minor leaguer and a ton of cash and moving him or Swisher to LF.
God I hate the Yankees!
quite possible
and Amaro loves prospects
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Werth
Why would the Phillies trade him for one minor leaguer? I’m going to assume they still plan on contending this year.
The Yankees strategy no longer involves trading prospects plus buying out free agency. They seem to be contend waiting until the winter time and making their big moves there.
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i can't see it
Jayson Werth is hitting 292/378/549. I find it pretty hard to believe that a team that has been in the World Series the last two years and is a mere 3.5 games out of first and 2 games out of the WC is going to trade one of their most productive hitters for cash and prospects. Dom Brown is a great prospect but throwing him into the middle of the pennant race barely out of AA would be insane.
Amaro
we/re talking Ruben Amaro here though. He dealt Lee for a few bags of baseballs.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
amaro
and it was a terrible move but that was during the offseason. to trade werth now for prospects would be absurd
+1
then again, he may think Brown is ready and he won’t get a great draft pick as compensation if Werth signs with the Yankees in the offseason.
Or, he just see the Mets as the better team right now!!!
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
stanton
great prospects don’t automatically put up 292/378/529. stanton, who was viewed as the better prospect, is at 229/284/351 with 31K in 74 AB
amaro
maybe he is taking the keeper league approach and see Werth as a zero contract and wants to see what he can get for him??? lol….
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and
don’t be bad-talking my man Stanton!!!! I bet Ryan Howard K’d 31 times in 74 at bats at some point in his career.
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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jul 1, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
But a move being stupid has never stopped a general manager from making it (see Zambrano, Victor)
To me, the haul would have to be at least 2 solid to high-end prospects to even contemplate it.
yes but
believe me i am in no way trying to justify the kazmir for zambrano trade but as misguided as it was, the mets were trading a prospect for a major leaguer. this would be a team that made the WS two years in a row trading one of it’s best offensive players, one of the best offensive players in the league, for prospects??? i don’t see it
Uhh
I’ve never understood how people simply disregard the fact that they got Roy Halladay in this deal. Last I checked he’s above replacement players status.
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uhh, no
it was two separate deals. the phillies did not need to give up Lee to get Roy. Amaro chose to deal Lee for either payroll issues, or to re-stock the farm system, or b/c he was drunk.
In googling I can’t find anything concrete but most sites called it a three way deal while some even pegged it as a four way involving the A’s. At worst they were companion deals where the Phillies weren’t dealing Lee without getting Halladay. So to say that they traded Lee for a bunch of scrubs is a pretty big half truth.
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It was essentially all viewed as a part of one big trade. They were separate trades technically, but since they were all pulled together on the same day they’re viewed that way. I would say that the reason they could be viewed separately is that there were no crossover players involved (no players from TOR or OAK went to SEA as a part of it, and none of the players from SEA went to TOR or OAK)
The hard part is the justification by Amaro that they dealt Lee because they didn’t need him and wanted to bring back some prospects. I’m sure that the Phillies’ fans would have loved to have seen what could have been, especially since they are now struggling to find starting pitching.
Either way, not looking too good right now.
hubris
i think was part of it. amaro, i think, got a bit too cute. didn’t think that anyone could beat them in the NL East so figured he would cash in Lee for some prospects to re-stock the system.
here is a quote from amaro:
In a news conference on Monday, February 1, "I’m not a dummy. I know what Cliff Lee means to our rotation. Our goal is to be a contender every year. That’s really my job. So, yes, I’d like to have a championship, but not at the cost of having our organization not be good for 10 years. Absolutely not. That’s not the goal. The goal is to be a contender every year."
definitely #1 or #3
because #2 (re-stock the farm system) just didn’t happen.
Biting commentary...
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Heres to hoping Dan Haren gets out of AZ asap...
I own him in a points league and have thus far been burned at least for where I drafted him(3rd round, yuck!). Leaving AZ should be an automatic upgrade but he’s known to be a first half pitcher. I really don’t have high expectations for him anymore but does anyone think he could revert to his dominant ways for the second half? Especially if a change of scenery inevitably insues…
I also have Polanco. I replaced him with Gordon Beckham because I got outbid for Sean Rodriguez. Beckham finished june strong, anyone think he could make 2010 2nd half look like 2009 2nd half? Of course I’m just looking for any reason to be happy about having him in my lineup. Zero FAAB $ left so I’m stuck with him until polanco comes back.
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