Fantasy Baseball Trade Offer for Albert Pujols

by Ray Guilfoyle on Jun 15, 2010 9:00 AM EDT in Baseball

PHOENIX - JUNE 13: Albert Pujols #5 of the St. Louis Cardinals bats against the Arizona Diamondbacks during the Major League Baseball game at Chase Field on June 13, 2010 in Phoenix, Arizona. The Diamondbacks defeated the Cardinals 7-5. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

One of the owners in one of my NL-only leagues (the 30 round draft I wrote about a few times) is offering Albert Pujols in search of pitching. I am currently in 3rd place in this league, my first year in the league, and am looking to deal one of my ptichers for some speed, but with Pujols available, I decided to make an offer.

My pitching staff looks like this:

Jonathan Sanchez

Manny Corpas

Of my 59.50 points, my pitching has contributed 36.5 points thus far, and I have Ryan Madson, Drew Storen, Mike Adams and Edison Volquez on IR or my bench. Volquez is expected back after the All Star break, and Storen and Adams could be closing within the next few months.

My hitters include the following:

Blake Dewitt

Pedro Alvarez-I activated him this week assuming he gets the call up

Seth Smth

Here is my offer for Albert:

Mat Latos

Chad Billingsley

Casey Blake

for

Albert Pujols

Joe Blanton

Luis Atilano

Am I giving up enough for Pujols, or is this a fair offer?

Poll

Is this a fair offer for Pujols: Billingsley/Latos/Blake for Pujols/Atilano/Blanton?

Yes, you made a fair offer

13 votes

No, you need to give up more for King Albert

161 votes

No, you are giving up too much for Albert

6 votes

180 votes | Poll has closed

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Casey Blake

You may need to up the Casey Blake part of your offer. Maybe one of your outfielders – Carlos Gonzalez could be a candidate (I would see if he likes Rasmus as I like Gonzalez more than Rasmus) – both are young with upside which would be more appealing than Casey Blake…

If he bites on the original offer, you will win big regardless what other pieces he gives with Albert in the deal.

by Bluethunder33 on Jun 15, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions

Just my opinion but...

Not sure acquiring Pujols makes too much sense for you. Your pitching does not appear passable once you remove Latos and Chad. Your lineup looks quite strong however, so why not move one of your bats for another quality pitcher? Latos will be a risk depending on how many innings he throws b/c theres a supposed “innings cap” in place. Relying on Volquez to step in immediately and perform like a #2 is quite perilous considering how much time he’s missed. I definitely understand the allure of a Pujols hitting the market but it just does not make any sense.

I would try to move Gonzalez or Rasmus for a pitcher if I were you. Your offer seems quite low for Albert, and your offense will be monstrous if accepted, so there’s certainly no harm in making the offer. But I expect it will be rejected swiftly as is, and you’d be better off targeting another starter. Best of luck!!

by brewerm on Jun 15, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions

surprised

count me as surprised at the results of the poll. If I give up Cargo/Rasmus along with the two pitchers, I don’t see the Albert side of the offer making up for how bad Blanton and Atilano will pitch compared to Latos and Billz.

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jun 15, 2010 10:14 AM EDT reply actions

agreed

however, I assume you aren’t considering making the deal because of the pitchers you are getting in return… its the acquisition of Albert. As the deal is now it appears you are offering solid players in ‘quantity’ for the highest single ‘quality’ you can receive (i.e. Albert). You could leave the two pitchers out that you are getting from him and still need to offer more for Albert in my opinion.

You would have a monstrous offense if you were able to get Albert, but I suspect it will take more especially in an NL only league where only Fielder is in the same league as Howard (with Albert being above all obviously).

In regard to Rasmus, I think he will steal a few bases but nothing you can’t live without. In terms of power, he will not be missed in the slightest with Albert aboard. Latos may have an excellent chance to become a very good pitcher, however, it will take a couple more years (IMO) for him to get enough innings to go 35 starts per year. I like the Billingsley part of the deal – you have to give up some desirable pieces and he is a good starting point.

It does depend on the league make-up (keeper rules, etc.) and I guess my input should be taken with a grain of salt as I have not done a NL-only type league before.

I do agree with brewerm a bit with getting another pitcher – maybe a good bat like Rasmus and a young pitcher like Latos for an upgraded pitcher. Many of the SP that you have seem to be outperforming what one would expect of them – not to say they can’t keep it up, but I think that Silva, Leake, etc. have performed better than expected. With your team make-up I would love to acquire someone like Gallardo, Ubaldo (probably untouchable at the moment), Wainwright, etc. Again, I don’t know what it would take to get a deal like that done in a NL-only league.

Rambling on – apologies. In short, more for Albert is likely needed even without worrying about the extra pitchers you are getting in return, and adding to pitching may be a good thing too in case 2nd half performances aren’t as strong from some of the guys on your staff.

by Bluethunder33 on Jun 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Ballot Stuffing

That was Nick voting 50 times.

Seriously, that was a classic 3 quarters for a dollar offer. Then again, you already have pulled of something similar this year. So why not give it a try?

by Rad on Jun 16, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions

which deal??

for Heyward??? Not so sure…Pelfry pitching great, Gomes hitting well, Leake pitching well…..

Rad, from the UBA league, knows a “3 quarter for a dollar offer” because he is the king of those offers….lol

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jun 16, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions

If you could make this move then by all means do it.

Then trade Howard for Wainwright/Carpenter/Hanson/Cain, etc + mid to lower level bat. If you could manage something like this you could essentially improve your offense and your pitching.

I don’t think there is anyway he will accept your current offer though.

by hayzer13 on Jun 15, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions

My sugesstion

Lowball lowball lowball. You never know how dumb the other manager is. Start low and end fair to get what you really want.

Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing.

by Playoffs?!? on Jun 16, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions

Honestly

I can’t see myself improving the hitting side of that offer….well, Billz is on teh DL now, so it doesn’t matter, but if healthy, I am not sure I could have increased the offer.
This is a 5×5 league where K’s are worth something…..

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by Ray Guilfoyle on Jun 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions