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Trade Deadline Deals: Just call me the anti-Ned Colletti

Ok, I am in 3 NL-only roto leagues this year. Two are keeper leagues, and one is a non-keeper, snake draft league. I am currently in 1st place by 5-6 points, depending on the hour, in the non-keeper league. This is my BIG league, where I dish out $350 per year, but have finished in the money the last two years employing a closer/MR strategy. Have never won it though....maybe this year??

In one of my keeper leagues, I have won the league the last two years. This year.....not so good. But I have a plethora of keepers including Hanley, Uggla, Bills, Broxton, Milledge, Maybin, Laroche, Gallardo, Loney, Cueto, Capps....so I should be set for another run next year.

In my other keeper league, UBA-a 12-team 4x4 league, in which Eric Hinz is also an owner, I am currently in 2nd place. I took over a team at the beginning of last year, and somehow ended up in 3rd place....sheer luck, as it is a competitive league with experienced owners.

Tonight was our trade deadline, and as luck would have it, I lost the following players to trade or DFA-Teixeira, Jose Castillo, and Paul Loduca. Not much after the loss of Tex. I am currently in the top 3 in the 4 hitting categories-Avg, HR, RBI and SB. I am in the top 4 in Wins, ERA and WHIP, but am in 9th place in saves, but am slowly moving up. My closers are Jonathon Broxton and Salomon Torres-two closers on two wildcard contending teams. I also have Adam Wainwright, currently on the DL and approaching his 3rd rehab start on Saturday. Depending on the day, he may come back as a starter should Chris Carpenter miss more than one start, or their closer even though prospect Chris Perez has saved 3 games in the last week. I also have Manny Corpas, who will be the Rockies closer next year, and possibly this year should Dan O-Dowd figure out that the Rockies won't get back into the NL West race anytime soon, and deal current closer Brian Fuentes.

With that backdrop, I get to my deals. Last week I was offered a very fair deal to add a 3rd closer which would probably net me 5 points in the standings. But that closer is Francisco Cordero, who pitches for a bad Reds team. The offer was Cordero, and Jeff Baker for Kyle Lohse and Pirates OF prospect Andrew McCutchen, who Keith Law drools over. Baker would fill 1b for my losing Tex. I REALLY went back and forth on this offer. Do I trade a very good prospect for Cordero, and his $33 salary. This trade would have reduced my chance of adding an impact bat to replace Tex. I was very close to accepting this offer.

Until I got this offer this morning.

I was offered $50 L1 Manny Ramirez and $1 S2 Ryan Spilborghs for Mark Teixeira and a $15 L1 Jeremy Hermida. Call me crazy, but I accepted this offer. To fill the loss of Castillo at 2b, I also traded $10 S2 Kyle Lohse and $2 S2 Castillo to Eric for $7 out-of-time Jeff Baker and $1 Justin Miller. I give up Teixeira, who is a free agent after the season, and Hermida-the once highly touted prospect for a month an a half of Manny and two years of Spilborgh, and I get the impact bat to replace Tex.

I know. I know. I didn't get that 3rd closer to guarantee me 5 points in the standings, and as of this minute, I am 4.5 points out, and 2.5 points in front of the 3rd place team. Did I mention I am a DIE-HARD Dodgers fan?? I think you knew this already. I was outbid for Manny after his trade to LA, so I had to deal for him with the loss of Tex, right? I think so. The addition of Spilborghs, who I think will start for Colorado next season, to the Manny deal sealed it for me.

Can I make up the 4.5 points in the standings? I think I can...but I will need some help. I am currently 8 saves from 4 more points in the saves category. The 4 teams above me: one team has no closer and Capps on the DL, one team has Hanrahan, one team has Hoffman, and the 4th team has Lidge. Can I make up 8 saves in a month and a half? I'm rolling the dice. Torres and Broxton should get more saves than Hoffman and Hanrahan....that's two points. The 3rd team has no closers and Capps on the DL.....he's 8 saves ahead of me, and Pittsburgh has no reason to rush him back. That's 3 points. Can Torres and Broxton get me 8 more saves than what Lidge will accumulate? It will be tough. Lidge has had a very good year, but is suffering from a tired arm. He hasn't blown any saves this year....is he due?

If I am lucky, O'Dowd trades Fuentes and Corpas becomes the COL closer; or Carpenter misses only one next start and Wainwright becomes the STL closer. Should either happen, I could add a total of 5 points....maybe. One more thing, I am 3 HRs behind the team in first place. If I leapfrog him in HRs, I gain two points. With Manny and Baker added to my current lineup that includes Wright, Holliday, Kemp, CoJack, Reynolds, Ethier, and Burrell, I think I have a good shot.

Was I stupid for rolling the dice with two closers and not dealing McCutchen for Cordero, or did I make a good move by adding Manny to replace Tex?

Poll
Was I stupid for pulling an anti-Ned Colletti move? What deals should Raygu have made?
Raygu saw Dodger Blue: Manny and Spilborgh for Hermida and Tex?
1 votes
Raygu's a complete fool: Cordero and Baker for McCutchen and Lohse
3 votes
Did he think I am Ned Colletti: Kotchman for Kershaw, McCutchen and Heyward.
2 votes

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My take

Since Baker and Lohse part of my offer was accepted, this comes down to adding a right-now closer – no guesses about Corpas and Wainwirght, for an excellent AAA OF prospect who looks a lot like Lastings Milledge to me. That right-now closer can likely be used to acquire a piece in the off-season, too.

FWIW, Spillborghs is frozen on your active roster. To open that spot for stat accumulation, he’d have to be activated by the Rox (September 1 at latest) or you’d have to waive him outright.

by faketeams on Aug 14, 2008 8:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT???

activated by Sept.1? what’s that all about?? what kind of rule is that??

raygu

by raygu on Aug 14, 2008 8:48 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Expanded MLB rosters

When rosters expand, I expect many players whose DL stints end shortly before 9/1 will be held over until then to be actived.

Spillborghs has been on the DL since July 9th – if Rotoworld’s notes are correct. That means he has been frozen on the UBA roster.

by faketeams on Aug 14, 2008 8:59 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this could help my closer situation

from Buster Olney:

Spoke in the noon hour on SportsCenter Wednesday about how Jarrod Washburn had been claimed on waivers by some unnamed team, and as of this morning, I still don’t know for sure which team has taken the gamble. But given White Sox GM Kenny Williams’ public comments about pitchers who might be ill-fitting for his park and the Yankees’ disinterest, some executives are speculating that the Cardinals are a possible destination for Washburn. St. Louis’ field staff had been quietly lobbying for pitching help from the front office, and the Cardinals could have placed a claim after seeing Chris Carpenter walk off the mound with an arm injury Sunday night. Keep in mind, too, that Boras clients tend to do well in St. Louis (Jeff Weaver, Kyle Lohse, etc.), so Washburn could find a safe harbor with Dave Duncan.

raygu

by raygu on Aug 14, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

But it has to occur and Wainwright has to be shifted into the pen. Cordero is already closing, and a team’s record/play-off prospects matter little in Save totals. See Wilson, Brian San Frnacisco Giants.

by faketeams on Aug 14, 2008 11:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Votes

Only two? Those are great possible answers. And the third one reflects a real offer!

by faketeams on Aug 14, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes the 3rd one was a real offer

here is Jayson Stark on the Rockies situation:

Rockie time: Teams that have been monitoring the waiver wire keep asking: Where are all the Rockies? From all accounts, not one player Colorado was dangling in July has been placed on waivers this month. But that actually stands to reason in this team’s case.

It makes sense for the Rockies to wait as long as possible to determine whether they’re contenders. Plus, baseball men who have done a lot of business with GM Dan O’Dowd say his normal August M.O. is not to place his biggest chips on waivers until near the end of the month, because he feels that’s a time teams claim players to make a deal, not to block a deal.

So it should be at least a week until the next Brian Fuentes Watch erupts. But when Fuentes does hit that wire, file this away: It’s believed that the team that came closest to dealing for him in July was the Cardinals — with Colorado targeting left-hander Jaime Garcia.

raygu

by raygu on Aug 14, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting twist from Stark above

They’ll probably name Buchholz the closer when Fuentes is dealt.

raygu

by raygu on Aug 14, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wrong LA GM

Turns out you were more like Tony Reagans in dealing a cheap productive MLBer for a high-profile big bat.

You are probably right about not needing the third closer. But thanks for leaving me a puncher’s chance. :-)

by Rad on Aug 16, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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